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How to help a depressed spouse

Apr 9, 2012 • By David Murray • 8 Comments

Depression can wreck marriages. Ignoring it, minimizing it, denying it, or delaying dealing with it will only increase the chances that your marriage will be damaged or even be destroyed by it.


Recently I came across a couple of great resources on this subject. First, here’s a short CCEF podcast answering the question: How can I help my spouse through depression? Main points:

  • Understand that as deeply you love your spouse, you don’t have the ability to cure their depression.
  • God is calling you to something simpler and more important than curing it;  just being a faithful witness to God’s love in it.
  • Love your spouse in simple ways that communicate to them that they are not loved depending on whether or not they are emotionally well.
  • Love, regardless of whether you are seeing “results.”
  • Don’t communicate: “If you were just trying harder or if you were more spiritual, you wouldn’t have this struggle.”
  • Instead of thinking: “How can I end this depression?” Think: “How can I love God and serve others in this depression.”
  • Use Gospel freedom to express your groans and darkness to God, as the Psalmist did.

Second, there’s this article, How to cope with a depressed spouse, from Reader’s Digest. Yes, Reader’s Digest! Main points:

  • Be alert to small changes. Depression can come on slowly, almost imperceptibly. Most are reluctant to recognize it and identify it. It may look different in different people.
  • Don’t wait for your spouse to hit bottom.
  • Break the ice gently yet firmly. Don’t blurt out: “You’re depressed!” or announce: “You better get help!” Approach your spouse with concern and with an action plan.
  • Get a diagnosis — together.  Going to the doctor together helps to describe the problem and remember the advice.
  • Know that the odds are in your favor.  The success rate of depression treatment is as high as 90 percent.
  • Keep on learning about depression.  The more you know, the better you can cope and fight.
  • Be alert for relapses. 50% of those who suffer a bout of major depression will have a relapse.
  • Find support. Choose a trusted friend to confide in. Accept assistance when offered.
  • See depression as an intruder in your marriage. Like any other illness, depression is an outside force — an unwelcome visitor wreaking havoc with your spouse’s health, your marriage, and your home life.

That last point is the only one I would seriously question. I would encourage Christians to see depression as from the Lord, part of His wise providence. If it’s from His hand, it’s not a hostile intruder, but has wise and good purposes behind it. I’d also want to add to these lists:

  • Regularly read the Bible, pray, and sing together.
  • Keep going to your local church, and get involved in serving others to a limited extent.
  • Exercise together, preferably taking leisurely walks in Gods creation.
  • Keep conversation positive rather than negative, focusing on the good in others rather than their faults.
  • Help your spouse to establish regular & healthy eating and sleep patterns
  • Use Ed Welch’s book A Stubborn Darkness, to gently probe the possibility of any spiritual causes

Anything else you’ve found helpful?

You’ve read the book, now be in the film!

Jan 9, 2012 • By David Murray • 4 Comments

A young mother. A middle-aged pastor. A high school student. An elderly retiree. What do all these people have in common? They’re all Christians. They all struggle with depression. They all have stories to tell.

At HeadHeartHand Media, we’re convinced that depression in the church is an issue that demands our attention, and in light of the warm reception Christians Get Depressed Too has received, we’re excited to be developing a video curriculum on that very topic!

While the book provides the reader with a short, systematic and easily digestible introduction to subject, we believe that film has incredible potential to give this problem a human face, and thus to motivate and enable us to take steps toward better understanding and response to depression.

A person’s understanding of depression cannot remain theoretical for long. All of us encounter the reality of depression on an almost daily basis. For many believers, that reality is their life. It’s our hope that this curriculum will equip churches to understand and minister to depressed Christians with greater compassion, greater understanding, and greater effect.

Do you have a story of your own?

We’ve already witnessed God’s grace in the lives of several Christians who’ve suffered with depression and can’t wait to share their stories and the lessons they’ve learned. But we need more! And that’s why we’re writing this. We’re hoping we’ll be able to connect with many different believers scattered far and wide who’ve also witnessed God’s gracious care for his sheep. If you or someone you know has suffered with depression in the past, or is still battling with it today, we’d love to hear from you. This is clearly a sensitive subject, and not one most of us would be eager to share in front of a camera; but if you believe that your story could be used for the good of Christ’s church and others suffering with depression, we ask that you’d prayerfully consider contacting us.

At the heart of this curriculum are stories from the trenches. Not stories of super-Christians who could do it all, but stories of ordinary Christians who were brought face to face with their own physical, mental and spiritual weakness. Stories of Christians, who, though they had to walk though this dark valley of depression, have found and continue to find hope in the Gospel of Jesus Christ and His provision for their physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual needs.

It’s our prayer that the church will be eager to walk with these believers, hear their stories from their own lips, and absorb the lessons they, their families, and their churches have learned as they journeyed together toward the light. We are confident that God will use this to transform congregations of Christians all throughout the world into gatherings of believers who will tenderly shepherd the hurting sheep among them.

To aid in drawing general lessons, practical helps and a way forward, the curriculum will also include interviews and analysis from several experts in the field: Christian pastors and various counselors who have years of experience to draw on and share with viewers. We believe that this combination of narrative and teaching will be a great introduction for any congregation or small group.

So, if you have a story to tell please contact us at info@headhearthand.org

The HeadHeartHand team,
David Murray
David Faasse
Dirk Naves

Tis the season to be SAD

Nov 30, 2011 • By David Murray • 2 Comments

Yes, with December 1 just over the page, it’s that time of year again when I roll out the old faithful SAD video.

Are you SAD? from Puritan Reformed on Vimeo.

8 ways to help depressed Christians [Video]

Nov 14, 2011 • By David Murray • 11 Comments

Here are eight guidelines for helping depressed Christians. In the video I cover the following points:

  1. Be prepared for it
  2. Don’t assume it is caused by a specific personal sin
  3. Check depth, width, and length of symptoms.
  4. Don’t rush to medication and don’t rule out medication
  5. Take holistic approach both to cause and cure
  6. Give hope
  7. Involve family & friends
  8. Re-establish spiritual disciplines

The books I mentioned are Dealing with Depression and Grace for the Afflicted.

Click here to view the video on Vimeo, and if you sign up for Vimeo (it’s free) you can also access the video file for downloading.

Any other advice you would give?

Revealing Research

Aug 12, 2011 • By David Murray • 3 Comments

A large 40 year study, by the American Heart Association, of over 80,000 women in the USA  has found that those with a history of depression had a 29% increased risk of stroke.

 The researchers also found that women who had used anti-depressants particularly SSRIs (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) at any point in the two years prior to the study, was 39% higher.

And here’s where our prejudices and presuppositions immediately kick in.

Those who are against anti-depressants will read this as further evidence of “the cure is worse than the disease.” 

Those who see a role for anti-depressants in the treatment of serious depression will try to find other explanations for the facts. 

For example, in this report on the findings, the BBC found public health and stroke experts to argue against any direct link between strokes and anti-depressant medication. 

Dr Kathryn Rexrode, who led the research, said the medicines were more likely to be an indication someone was more seriously ill, rather than a cause of the stroke. She said: “I don’t think the medications themselves are the primary cause of the risk. This study does not suggest that people should stop their medications to reduce the risk of stroke.”

She added: “Depression can prevent individuals from controlling other medical problems such as diabetes and hypertension, from taking medications regularly or pursuing other healthy lifestyle measures such as exercise. All these factors could contribute to increased risk.”

That was echoed by Dr Peter Coleman, deputy director of research at the UK’s Stroke Association: “This research appears to indicate that women suffering from depression may be less motivated to maintain good health or control other medical conditions such as diabetes and high blood pressure, which have an associated increased risk of stroke.”

My takeaways from the research are: 

1. View depression as a serious condition with many damaging consequences. 

Don’t dismiss depressed people as if they were merely suffering from a common cold, allergy, or a passing bad mood. Wherever depression starts – in the heart, in the brain, or in devastating providences – its ripple (tsunami?) effects are extensive and often life-threatening. Take this seriously, and get help early.

2. Medication alone is never the answer.  

Much research into the benefits and drawbacks of anti-depressants take no account of the impact of social support, spiritual counseling, lifestyle coaching, etc. 

Some research (usually funded by by talking-therapy advocates) shows that anti-depressants do little better than placebos. Other research (usually funded by drug companies) highlights  a drug’s statistical success.  But what help are any of these “facts” without knowing much more about the background and situations of these sufferers. 

I have never seen anti-depressants work where there has not been a serious commitment to receiving  and acting upon counsel about lifestyle, decision-making, social interaction, and spiritual needs. If you think that the sole answer to depression is a pill, you are in for a very long and dark journey – and possibly a stroke!

Having said that, sometimes, in really serious depression, unless there is a willingness to take medication, all the counsel in the world is going to go in one ear and out the other. The information cannot be received or successfully processed. 

3. Be aware of our own prejudices and presuppositions when analyzing research.

When we read something that supports our existing conclusions, we are much more likely to believe it as true without any further analysis.

When we read something that challenges our faith, our reason, or our previously adopted public positions, out come our sharpened critical faculties to find the weaknesses and inconsistencies. 

Sometimes, our response to research reveals more about ourselves than anything else.

Can we redeem self-esteem?

Apr 25, 2011 • By David Murray • 0 Comments

Deeply rooted self-doubt and self-criticism will often emerge and strengthen during a depression. Depressed people often feel useless and worthless. They have low self-esteem. What should we do to address this?

Some Christians are reluctant to give people any praise or encouragement because of the risk of making a person proud. However, it is safe to say that pride is one of the least risky vices for someone who is depressed. Pride results from having an overinflated view of oneself. Depression usually results in the opposite.

Other Christians misconstrue the doctrine of original sin and total depravity to mean that there is no kind of good in anyone and fail to say anything positive to the depressed person. However, without minimizing the wickedness of the human heart and without denying our inability to do anything pleasing to God apart from faith in Christ, we should feel free to encourage depressed people to have a more realistic view of themselves by highlighting their God-given gifts, their contributions to the lives of others, their usefulness in society, and, if they are Christians, their value to the church.

For example, a depressed young mother may feel like a total failure in every area of her life because she doesn’t have a perfect home or perfect children. We can help such a person see that she achieves a lot in a day, even though she might not manage to do everything she would like. We might remind her of all the meals she makes, clothes she washes and irons, and the shopping she manages, helping her see herself and her life in a more accurate and realistic light. Arie Elshout comments:

It is wrong to pat ourselves on the back when something has been accomplished as a result of our initiative. It is equally wrong, however, to focus on what we have not accomplished. In 1 Corinthians 15:10 we have a clear example of humility accompanied with a healthy opinion of one’s accomplishments: “But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.”

Paul knew very well that he daily offended in many things (James 3:2; cf. Rom. 7; Phil. 3:12), and yet he did not go so far as to cast out all his accomplishments. I do not believe that this is God’s will. In contrast to sinful forms of self-confidence and self-respect, there are also those that are good, necessary, and useful.

Without a healthy sense of these, human beings cannot function well. We may pray for an appropriate sense of self-confidence and self-respect, clothed in true humility, and we must oppose everything that impedes a healthy development of these things (be it in ourselves or others) with the Word of God (Overcoming Spiritual Depression, 32–33).

Edited extract from Christians get depressed too. Available at RHB and Ligonier. Kindle version here.

Caring for the depressed (2): Sympathy

Apr 7, 2011 • By David Murray • 2 Comments

Thoughtful and prayerful study of depression should naturally and automatically increase our sympathy for those who suffer from it. By sympathy, I mean an ability to communicate that we truly understand the problem and the symptoms, that we are deeply concerned, and that we will do all that we can to help. In many cases such sympathy can have a powerful therapeutic effect on the sufferer. The lack of it can only multiply the pain and deepen the darkness. Consider the following quote from Russell Hampton, who suffered from depression:

If there were a physical disease that manifested itself in some particularly ugly way, such as postulating sores or a sloughing off of the flesh accompanied by pain of an intense and chronic nature, readily visible to everyone, and if that disease affected fifteen million people in our country, and further, if there were virtually no help or succour for most of these persons, and they were forced to walk among us in their obvious agony, we would rise up as one social body in sympathy and anger. There isn’t such a physical disease, but there is such a disease of the mind, and about fifteen million people around us are suffering from it. But we have not risen in anger and sympathy, although they are walking among us in their pain and anguish (The Far Side of Despair, 78)

It will greatly help you to sympathize if you always remember that you could just as easily be in the same position, suffering the same sorrow (1 Cor. 4:7). If you treat depressed people with impatient contempt, you may, like many others before you, have to learn sympathy the hard way.

Edited extract from Christians get depressed too. Available at RHB and Ligonier. Kindle version here

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Caring for the depressed (1): Study

Apr 5, 2011 • By David Murray • 4 Comments

A depressed Christian’s family and friends, and fellow Christians, will be involved to one degree or another in helping a depressed person get better. Usually these caregivers have no medical training, and often they have limited or incorrect knowledge of depression or anxiety. However, they have a critical role in helping a depressed person get better. Research has shown that depressed people get better much quicker if they can confide in and get support from someone close to them. Over the next few days we will consider ten areas for caregivers to consider when they are trying to help a depressed person get better.

The first requirement is study. As Christians, we surely want to be the person to whom our loved ones turn in time of need. And when they do turn to us, we want to be able to help them and not hurt them further. It is imperative, therefore, that we learn about depression in order to avoid the common mistakes that laypeople often make when dealing with the depressed and in order to be of maximum benefit to those who are suffering.

Along with studying how Jesus dealt with the ill, the weak, and the distressed, you might want to read some of the helpful books, written from a Christian perspective, that are now available. The following are listed in order of readability and usefulness:

Another book, of course, is the well-known Spiritual Depression by Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones. However, you should be aware that in that book Dr. Lloyd-Jones does not deal with every aspect of depression as an illness but rather focuses on some of the spiritual consequences of depression. In some ways, the book is more about spiritual discouragement than depression, but it is helpful nevertheless.

A book written from a non-Christian perspective, but which is still useful for changing unhelpful thought patterns and behavior, is Mind over Mood by Dennis Greenberger and Christine Padesky.

I would also cautiously recommend Ed Welch’s Blame It on the Brain? and Depression: A Stubborn Darkness. Dr. Welch exhibits a sensitive balance when dealing with depression, and his books have a lot of excellent and helpful material. He seems to be open to non-spiritual causes of depression, although at times he still seems to revert to the “medicine only alleviates symptoms” model. A Stubborn Darkness is also helpful for exploring possible spiritual causes or contributors to depression. However, I would hesitate to put this book directly into the hands of depressed Christians, as they will often draw the worst possible conclusions about themselves, regardless of objective reality. It is better that a committed and understanding pastor or family member gently and wisely guide a depressed person through the relevant parts of the book.

It is important to remember that reading these books will not turn you into a mental health expert, but it will make you more useful and helpful to loved ones in distress. It will also help you to know your limitations so that you make the right decision about when to advise someone to see a more experienced Christian, a doctor, or a mental health professional. I would recommend that pastors build a database of local doctors and mental health professionals who share their Christian principles. Phone around, speak to people, visit hospitals, speak to the staff, and build relationships so that when you are facing a situation that is beyond your competence, you will know to whom you should turn.

Edited extract from Christians get depressed too at RHB and Ligonier. Kindle version here

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Depression: The 6 R’s

Mar 21, 2011 • By David Murray • 3 Comments

One reason for the dramatic surge of depression in our Western culture is the stressful lifestyle that so many are living for extended periods of time. Addressing this is not the whole answer in recovering from depression, but it is often a large part of the answer. It is vital to lead a balanced lifestyle in order to relieve the “stretch” that threatens our physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual well-being.

1. Routine
One of the keys to a balanced lifestyle is regular routine. This is also one of the first things to fall by the wayside when someone becomes depressed. Depressed people often find it difficult to resist being guided by their feelings. When a person feels down he will often do only what he feels like doing and avoid what he doesn’t feel like doing. For example, if you are depressed and you don’t feel like getting up, you won’t. If you don’t feel like working, you won’t. If you don’t feel like doing the laundry, you won’t. If you feel you want to drink or eat to excess, you do it. A positive step in recovering from depression is to restore order and discipline in your life. Regular and orderly sleeping, eating, and working patterns will rebuild a sense of usefulness and healthy “self-esteem.” It is also glorifying to God who is a God of order, not of confusion (1 Cor. 14:33).

2. Relaxation
We need to build times of relaxation into our lives. This may involve finding a quiet spot at various times throughout the day to simply pause, calm down, and seek the peace of God in our lives. Jesus recognized and provided for this need in His disciples when He took them “apart into a desert place, and rest[ed] a while” (Mark 6:31).

Another helpful area to explore is whether you are breathing properly. It is common for depressed and anxious people to be extremely tense, which often leads to hyperventilation or over-breathing and then to inevitable weakness of body and brain. There are many helpful books and Web sites that, without straying into “New Age” ideas, give good basic advice on re-learning how to relax and breathe properly.

3. Re-creation
Moderate physical exercise helps to expel unhelpful chemicals from our system and stimulates the production of helpful chemicals. Outdoor exercise has the added benefit of the sun’s healing rays.

4. Rest
A Christian psychologist recently said to me that he starts most depressed people on three pills: “Good exercise, good diet, and good sleep!” That’s great advice, so I would encourage you to make use of the plentiful resources available today on these subjects.

As regular sleep patterns enable the body and mind to repair and re-charge, set fixed times for going to bed and getting up, and try to get at least eight hours of sleep. Avoid caffeine, vigorous exercise, phone calls, TV, and Internet use within three hours of sleeping. Get into a set routine for going to bed, and try to secure cooperation from others in the house. And remember God’s gift of weekly rest. The Lord’s Day was graciously made for us (Mark 2:27), partly to ease the tension of our busy, overstretched lives.

5. Re-prioritize
Examine your life and see what you can do to reduce your commitments and obligations. Areas to consider are your family, your work, your church, your neighbors, and travel. Once you are better you may be able to pick up some of these activities again. But the priority is to get better.

6. Repentance
We may also need to look at the reasons for choosing such stressful and damaging lifestyles. What is driving us? What is motivating us? What are our aims and ambitions? What are we living for? Above all, who are we living for?

Christians get depressed too at Reformation Heritage Books, Ligonier, and Amazon.

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5 questions to ask a depressed person

Mar 9, 2011 • By David Murray • 4 Comments

When I start counseling a depressed person, I’m looking for answers to five questions at an early stage in the conversation. I don’t ask them in a checklist or condemning manner, but I try to probe sympathetically to get a sense of where they are at.

1. Do you accept you have a problem?
Don’t assume that just because a person has come for counseling, that he accepts he has a problem. Family pressure rather than personal choice may have put him there. It is very common for a depressed person to be in denial about the existence, the nature, or the extent of the problem. Sometimes this denial is wilful pride, but sometimes it is because depression can creep over a person so slowly that they do not realize that it has happened. And, of course, part of depression is an inability to see oneself in a true and realistic light.

2. Are you willing to explore all the possible dimensions of this problem?

Once a person has accepted that he has a problem, I want to know how open they are to looking at the problem from a number of angles. Some people will only want to look at the spiritual dimension, and are looking for bible verses; others only want to talk about the physical dimension, and are looking for a pill; still others are only interested in looking back to find all the people and events that have contributed to their problems. But, unless a person is willing to explore all the possible dimensions of depression – physical, spiritual, mental, social, etc., – most counseling effort will be frustratingly handicapped. 

3. Do you want to be made whole?

This was the question Jesus asked of the lame man at the pool of Bethesda (John 5:6). At first glance it may seem like a silly question. Surely every sick person wants to be made whole! Surely everyone with problems wants them solved! However, Christ’s challenging question seems to imply that this man had settled into the role of “victim” and no longer wanted to get better. Sometimes a depressed person can also adopt this mindset. Perhaps they are frightened of all the responsibilities of life that might come upon them should they be viewed as well again. Perhaps they would miss the attention and sympathy that being ill often generates. So, we gently ask, “Do you really want to be made whole?” And that leads us to the next question.

4. Are you willing to do what you can to contribute to the healing process
Doctors and pastors are often faced with the frustrating situation of people who need their help, yet are not taking the steps required to benefit from this help: practical suggestions are not followed through, Scripture is not read, necessary medication is not taken, friendships are shunned, etc. Depressed people often need to be encouraged out of passivity and into taking some responsibility.

5. Do you trust me when I tell you that you have good hope of recovery?
As hope is such an important part of recovering from depression, I’d like to ask “Do you have hope of getting better?” However, as depression usually involves a general sense of hopelessness, initially I ask them to trust me that there is hope, rather than have that hope themselves. I encourage them with statistics (the vast majority of depressed people do eventually recover), and with stories of other people I’ve seen get better. After a few meetings I usually see people beginning to adopt the hope themselves, and that is such an accelerator of healing.

Again, I want to emphasize that this questioning is to be done in a caring and compassionate way. And I’m not saying, “Unless you get the right answers right away, you might as well not even start.” However, I’ve found that these questions usually reveal enough to indicate how fruitful any future counseling will be.

Christians get depressed too at Reformation Heritage Books, Ligonier, and Amazon.

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Helpful CCEF video about Depression

Mar 4, 2011 • By David Murray • 0 Comments


I was really delighted to see David Powlison’s careful, balanced, loving response to the question: “Do you believe that there is a biological basis for depression which may endure, despite the fact that heart issues have been successfully addressed through biblical counseling? If so, is there a place for long-term use of medication?”

David calls this “one of the defining questions of our age.”

I agree.

And this video goes a long way towards answering it.

‘Tis the season to be…depressed

Dec 23, 2010 • By David Murray • 3 Comments

Last year a student and I put together a short video about SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder). With yesterday being the shortest day of the year, I thought this might be an opportune time to make it available again.

And if videos are not your thing, here is a really helpful article about how physiological and seasonal factors can contribute to depression. It is written in simple language, includes great illustrations, and some practical how-to’s (and how not-to’s)

The focus is on two potentially problematic areas: the importance of sleep and the effect of nutrition. Here are a few extracts:

The importance of sleep
“Sleep to a human is like refueling the car. You can’t drive a car 60 miles everyday without refilling the gas tank. The same is true with body and sleep. Adult humans need seven to nine hours of sleep per night to function optimally.”

“Fatigue from sleep deprivation has many of the same symptoms as depression. Dr. Edward Welsh of the Christian Counseling Education Foundation here in Philadelphia explained that sometimes clients who feel depressed are actually sleep deprived.

This is not to say that all depression is merely sleep deprivation. But rather, certain symptoms may develop without proper sleep. Furthermore, a sleep-deprived brain can’t handle stressors like a fully rested brain. Between Thanksgiving and Christmas many people log long stressful days without balancing it with necessary sleep.”

The effect of nutrition
“Giving your body proper nutrition is like keeping all of your car’s fluids full and clean. Let me say from personal experience, if you don’t have coolant in your radiator, you will find smoke billowing out of your car’s hood.”

“If we were to put butter in the radiator fluid, it may function OK, but not optimally. If we continue to put butter into the mix, the car will eventually be nothing more than a fancy cigarette lighter. The same goes with our bodies. We treat them badly, then wonder why the feel so run down. Furthermore, when we are not giving our brains the nutrients they need to perform well, then stressors will seem all the more overwhelming. 

Every time you feed your body food devoid of nutritional value, you place the task of food digestion on your body, but give it none of the tools (vitamins, fiber, protein, and whatnot) that it needs to do the job done. This leaves your systems weakened instead of bolstered, leaving you open for attack by viruses and bacteria. Whether we end up getting sick or not, the brain is also harmed. And, when the brain is harmed we may feel depressed.”

Read the whole article here.

Helping someone with post-partum depression

Sep 20, 2010 • By David Murray • 1 Comment

I’ve been subscribing to the Postpartum Progress Blog for quite a while now. It is the most widely-read blog on postpartum depression & other mental illnesses related to childbirth. I’m not sure if I’m the only man on the list (!), but I’d definitely encourage other Christian men to join. Pastors would find it especially helpful in building a sympathetic understanding of oh-so-common postpartum depression and other associated childbirth complications flowing from Genesis 3:16a.

As far as I can tell, the writing is not usually from a Christian perspective. And sometimes the writing is unnecessarily “raw.” However, many of the articles offer lots of realistic, down-to-earth advice, which is particularly useful for us men who struggle to understand the emotional and mental sufferings some women have to endure.

For example, in this post Alexis Lesa give Four tips for supporting someone with postpartum depression. And here she writes on the benefits of postpartum depression. Obviously a Christian pastor would want to adjust and add to some of the material in these articles. However, they are a great starting point for understanding PPD and helping those suffering with it.

David Powlison Responds

Apr 1, 2010 • By David Murray • 4 Comments

A couple of weeks ago I watched this video interview with Dr David Powlison, How does Biblical Counseling view Psychiatric Drugs?  I had some pastoral concerns about this video, and expressed them in this blog post, Who sinned? This man or his parents.

Last weekend I was privileged to receive a response from Dr Powlison. I asked him if he would mind me posting his response on my blog without further comment by me. Dr Powlison gave his OK, and said he had no problem with me responding. However, to let Dr Powlison’s words have their full weight and significance, I think it’s best to let them stand alone.

David M, I so appreciate your thoughtful response to my brief podcast. In fact I fully agree with your pastoral instincts. Depression per se is suffering, not sin, something many ministries miss. Symptomatic reliefs of many sorts are not to be despised, lightening burdens is a good. My mention of what each of us brings to suffering (“issues”), did not imply that sin is the underlying cause of depression, or that depression reduces to sin, or is cured by dealing with sin. To those who would merely medicalize depression, I meant to communicate “Don’t forget the person” by either over-medicalizing or over-situationalizing. On the other hand, I’d say to those who reduce depression to sin, “In your eagerness to deal with sin in light of Christ, don’t forget that people are physically-embodied and socially-embedded, and that both are vectors of sufferings,” some of which can be alleviated in part, some of which are intractable until the last day.

By “meaning and relationship” I intended the opposite of how you took my too-brief words. These things are good gifts we bring to sufferers (both personally and as bearers of Christ). My citing those words was not an allusion to strugglers’ personal failings. It was a reference to the potential for the church to enter in and care helpfully for strugglers. It describes a gift, not a diagnosis. In the context of Christian meaning and love, sufferers find encouragement, hope, and growth in grace, even as we all must endure through darkness.

Blessings, David P

Who sinned? This man or his parents?

Mar 17, 2010 • By David Murray • 0 Comments

I’m thankful to God for David Powlison, together with his predecessors and successors in the Biblical Counseling movement. By God’s grace, they have restored the pastor’s role in counseling, and led a wonderful reformation of church counseling practice. Their books have been blessed to me personally, and I use their materials extensively in our counseling classes at Puritan Seminary. Recently I was sent this video interview with Dr Powlison.

I agree with Dr Powlison:

1. Psychiatric drugs, like many drugs, are often prescribed to treat symptoms instead of dealing with the causes, the issues of meaning and relationship.

2. Psychiatric drugs, like most drugs to some extent, are often over-prescribed and overused.

3. Psychiatric drugs, like many other drugs, can have a placebo effect in some people.

However, I do have some pastoral concern with some of the emphases in this interview. It is difficult to comment on the paraphrase of the remarks attributed to the Director of the NIMH by Dr Powlison (if anyone can supply me with the exact words and larger context, I would be very grateful). But I’m a bit concerned lest by overreacting to over-use or abuse of medication, we end up with under-use or non-use, especially if it is a life-or-death situation. Also, though some studies do show a significant placebo effect with psychiatric drugs, I would not be quite so dismissive about alleviating the suffering of one third of millions of people with depression.

My major concern though is with Dr Powlison repeatedly describing psychiatric drugs, and the SSRI’s in particular, as only dealing with “symptom alleviation.” Implicitly and explicitly Dr Powlison says again and again that there are always underlying “issues” or causes. The issues are “meaning or relationship,” or “what you are living for and how you are living,” or “the two great commandments.” In other words, the default position in dealing with a depressed person is that their personal sin has caused it, they are responsible for it, and so they must repent and believe the Gospel. Of course, personal sin can and often does cause (or contribute to) depression and anxiety, just as personal sin can and often does cause (or contribute to) heart disease, or certain types of diabetes, or even blindness. But these same diseases and disabilities can also be the result, not of personal sin, but of living in a fallen body in a fallen world.

Just as the curse on this world and our bodies can cause mechanical, chemical and electrical problems in our hearts, our livers, our pancreas, our eyes, etc., so we can also have mechanical, chemical and electrical problems in our brains, which may affect the way we think, and even our personalities. I’m sure we have all seen loved ones with brain injuries, bleeds, or tumors dramatically and painfully change in this way. Nutritionists have also demonstrated how certain foods can affect our moods and thoughts, our feeling and thinking.

The brain is the most complex organ in our body, and so is liable to be the most affected of all our organs by the fall and the divine curse upon our bodies. And as processing our thoughts is the main activity of our brain, we can expect this area at times to fail and break, through no fault of our own, with subsequent emotional and behavioral problems. (And that’s not to deny that a person is responsible for how they respond to mechanical, chemical, or electrical failures and faults in any part of their body.)

In these cases, medication is not merely alleviating symptoms, but addressing the causes. It is no different to me giving my 8-year-old daughter one of her many daily injections of insulin for diabetes. I am not merely alleviating symptoms, but addressing the cause – depleted insulin due to dying or dead cells in her pancreas. And if she is lethargic, weepy, or irrational due to low sugar levels, I do not ask her what commandments she has broken or what “issues of meaning and relationship” she has in her life. I pity her, weep for her, and thank God for His gracious provision of medicine for her. 

If we come to the point that our default position in dealing with depression is “it’s sin until proven otherwise,” we are getting painfully close to the disciples position, “Who sinned? This man or his father?” (John 9:2). It is also getting worryingly close to the “health, wealth, and prosperity gospel,” in terms of diagnosis (personal sin) and prescription (more repentance and faith).

I realize that many in the biblical counseling movement have “moved” on the use of psychiatric drugs, and I welcome that. I also realize, as Dr Powlison said, that there are various views within the movement (see Ed Welch’s careful and sensitive Blame it on the brain?). We are all continuing to learn from God and from one another in the community of faith. I dread to think where we would be today without the courageous and wise leadership of the Biblical Counseling Movement.

But I started by saying that my concern was pastoral rather than polemical. And I mean that. Maybe it would help if I explained the particular pastoral context I’m thinking of. I was a pastor for 12 years on the west coast of the Scottish Highlands. Sadly, that beautiful area has one of the highest rates of depression in the western world, and I dealt with many Christians who endured years of mental suffering and spiritual darkness. Although initially, in my youthful zeal, I probed for the sin or “issues,” because I did not want just to “alleviate symptoms,” I came to realize that I was often (though not always) dealing with people whose problem was not “issues of meaning or relationship.” As I got to know them, I came to see that what they were living for and how they were living was not the problem; they were unquestionably living for Christ, and living like Christ.  In fact they were among the most godly Christians I have ever met. The Lord was everything to them and they would not let go of Him despite everything screaming from within and without, “There is no God.”

So, I would encourage pastors dealing with depression to fight strongly against adopting the default of “it’s sin until proven otherwise,” or as Dr Powlison says, “there are always issues, underlying issues”, or “it’s about what they are living for and how they are living,” or “its about the two great commandments.” It may well be. But let’s not begin there and so potentially damage some of the precious people of God in their moments of greatest weakness.

Describing the indescribable

Feb 24, 2010 • By David Murray • 2 Comments

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Many have attempted to describe the indescribable pain of depression. Numerous similes and metaphors have been used to convey depression’s deep, deep agonies. However, I don’t think I’ve seen anything come so close to describing the indescribable as this deeply moving poem by my Christian friend, Sue Lubbers.

Three things make this poem especially touching. First, it was written by a Christian, which actually adds another layer to the suffering.  The Christian with depression not only loses physical energy, intellectual ability, and emotional activity, but the most precious thing in their life feels lost – their spiritual relationship with their Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.  

Second, the poem is breathtakingly honest. It does not attempt to gloss over or minimize the horrific thoughts and feelings that stalk and haunt the soul in this desolate valley. It is so far removed from the shallow and artificial triumphalism of so much of modern Christianity. It is much more reminiscent of the deep and realistic piety we find in many of the Psalms, in Job, and in Jeremiah.

Third, the poem holds out great hope for those still passing through these deep waters. To get maximum benefit, don’t read across the two columns. Rather, read the whole of the first column. Then start reading down the second column, comparing it as you go with the parallel line in the first column. What a transformation! The Lord has revolutionized this dear believer’s life. If you, or a loved one, are still in column one, then read column two and see what our almighty and gracious God can do in the most desperate of situations.

And if the Lord has spared you this affliction, then thank him for His undeserved favor towards you, and use the poem to cultivate sympathy and understanding for sufferers.

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Does technology cause depression?

Jan 7, 2010 • By David Murray • 2 Comments

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Psychologist Daniel Goleman describes our seemingly hedonistic age as “The age of melancholy” and blames the pervasive sadness on technology. He is quoted in this New Scientist article by Amichai-Hamburger (seriously!) which shares Goleman’s view of technological oppression and and proposes the solution of self-determination theory (SDT). SDT “identifies three vital elements of healthy personal development and functioning which can be used to calibrate our relationship with technology.”

The first is autonomy – the feeling that our activities are self-chosen and self-endorsed. When we feel in control, we are able to organise our priorities and place effective boundaries around them.

 

We also need a sense of competence, a belief that our actions are effective…knowing which activities are important to us and carrying them out in the most effectual way possible, making use of technology where applicable.

 

The other factor is relatedness: our need to feel close to other people. Technology is a threat to this…Psychologists have found that the pivotal difference between happy and unhappy people is the presence or absence of rich and satisfying social relationships. Spending meaningful time with friends, family and partners is necessary for happiness.

It’s fascinating to observe the best attempts of the best minds to analyze the fundamental unhappiness of the human race and come up with their own Gospel – autonomy, competence, and relatedness – which may give some limited temporary happiness. However the true Gospel diagnoses a deeper problem – not technology but sin. And it proposes quite different solutions. Instead of autonomy, it is dependence on Christ. Instead of competence, it is admitting our weakness and doing all in Christ’s strength. Instead of relatedness to people, it is relationship to God through Jesus Christ. 

But to return to the original question, I do believe that technology has a role in causing some depression. Look at this scary infographic for how much data is passing through our minds each day. There is no way the human mind can take this amount of stimulation without wearing down and running out of gas eventually. We need to build quiet time into our day to allow our minds time to rest and renew. We also need to remember that Elijah heard the Lord’s voice not in the midst of sensational stimulation but in the quiet stillness.

Antidepressants work fast?

Oct 26, 2009 • By David Murray • 0 Comments

“Antidepressants get to work immediately to lift mood, contrary to current belief, UK researchers say.”

Read the whole of this fascinating article on the BBC website.