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	<title>Comments on: Did the Holy Spirit indwell OT believers?</title>
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		<title>By: Fefetwo</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2011/09/14/did-the-holy-spirit-indwell-ot-believers/#comment-50774</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2020 11:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are projecting NT revelation/circumstances backward onto OT saints. Just what did OT saints believe in? They believed in what God had revealed to them up to that time, obeyed, and it was counted unto them for righteousness. They did not, could not, yet put faith in the death, burial, and resurrection of a future Messiah for the eternal atonement (in fact, for the Nation Israel, that atonement is still future). The HS could only indwell believers after Jesus’ death and return to heaven, after which He sent the Comforter/Helper back. Even then, it briefly operated differently in the believing Jews at Pentecost as a sign of and in preparation for the Earthly Kingdom, which had been “at hand” during Jesus’ earthly ministry and was now being offered to them by Peter. (This was that prophesied by Joel, etc) Jesus baptizing them WITH the HS was to prepare them for eminent evangelizing and survival during Jacob’s trouble—-the seventeenth year of 7 years that would have ensued had they as a nation accepted Messiah. (Now held in abyss until the rapture of the Body of Christ and the end of the dispensation of Grace.) Today when a person comes to Christ he or she is given the HS as a seal of promise and constant helper along our sanctification promise. Notice we are not automatically filled with the HS as a gift but are admonished to work on being filled every day. Also notice Jesus never baptizes us with the HS (as on the Day of Pentecost) but rather the HS baptizes US into His Body in a constant mystic union with Him, unique to this dispensation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are projecting NT revelation/circumstances backward onto OT saints. Just what did OT saints believe in? They believed in what God had revealed to them up to that time, obeyed, and it was counted unto them for righteousness. They did not, could not, yet put faith in the death, burial, and resurrection of a future Messiah for the eternal atonement (in fact, for the Nation Israel, that atonement is still future). The HS could only indwell believers after Jesus’ death and return to heaven, after which He sent the Comforter/Helper back. Even then, it briefly operated differently in the believing Jews at Pentecost as a sign of and in preparation for the Earthly Kingdom, which had been “at hand” during Jesus’ earthly ministry and was now being offered to them by Peter. (This was that prophesied by Joel, etc) Jesus baptizing them WITH the HS was to prepare them for eminent evangelizing and survival during Jacob’s trouble—-the seventeenth year of 7 years that would have ensued had they as a nation accepted Messiah. (Now held in abyss until the rapture of the Body of Christ and the end of the dispensation of Grace.) Today when a person comes to Christ he or she is given the HS as a seal of promise and constant helper along our sanctification promise. Notice we are not automatically filled with the HS as a gift but are admonished to work on being filled every day. Also notice Jesus never baptizes us with the HS (as on the Day of Pentecost) but rather the HS baptizes US into His Body in a constant mystic union with Him, unique to this dispensation.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Schnitzel</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2011/09/14/did-the-holy-spirit-indwell-ot-believers/#comment-50735</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rebecca Schnitzel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2020 17:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Based on Mark 3.29, I guess the Holy Spirit&#039;s name was used among Jewish leaders in Jesus&#039; day. It does strike me though, that before Pentecost, they knew to whom Jesus was referring.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on Mark 3.29, I guess the Holy Spirit&#8217;s name was used among Jewish leaders in Jesus&#8217; day. It does strike me though, that before Pentecost, they knew to whom Jesus was referring.</p>
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		<title>By: Pitangus Sulfuratus</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2011/09/14/did-the-holy-spirit-indwell-ot-believers/#comment-48885</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pitangus Sulfuratus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2016 13:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the sun of the Resurrection  shines on BOTH sides - New AND  Old Testaments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the sun of the Resurrection  shines on BOTH sides &#8211; New AND  Old Testaments.</p>
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		<title>By: Pitangus Sulfuratus</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2011/09/14/did-the-holy-spirit-indwell-ot-believers/#comment-48884</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pitangus Sulfuratus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[took His Spirit away(1 Sam 16:14) -excellent point  i.e. not indwelt permanently like the Church  is. . .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>took His Spirit away(1 Sam 16:14) -excellent point  i.e. not indwelt permanently like the Church  is. . .</p>
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		<title>By: O.T. Connelly</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2011/09/14/did-the-holy-spirit-indwell-ot-believers/#comment-47517</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[O.T. Connelly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are so many controversial topics that can be discussed in the Bible with answers that are satisfactory to some and not so much to others.  But, please always lets keep in mind; We will know the  absolute answers when Jesus comes back!   Be Blessed of the Lord and in the Power of His Might!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are so many controversial topics that can be discussed in the Bible with answers that are satisfactory to some and not so much to others.  But, please always lets keep in mind; We will know the  absolute answers when Jesus comes back!   Be Blessed of the Lord and in the Power of His Might!</p>
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		<title>By: O.T. Connelly</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2011/09/14/did-the-holy-spirit-indwell-ot-believers/#comment-47516</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[O.T. Connelly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zacharias received the Holy Spirit even before Jesus was born. Zacharias was a Priest who was indwelled (Luke 1:67) but, most people still believe the Spirit did not indwell prior to the works of the cross, even some scholars today and I really don&#039;t understand why.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zacharias received the Holy Spirit even before Jesus was born. Zacharias was a Priest who was indwelled (Luke 1:67) but, most people still believe the Spirit did not indwell prior to the works of the cross, even some scholars today and I really don&#8217;t understand why.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Ratliff</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2011/09/14/did-the-holy-spirit-indwell-ot-believers/#comment-44167</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cheryl Ratliff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Feb 2014 22:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are studying King Saul in Sunday School.  I am under the understanding  that the Holy Spirit did indeed &quot;rest&quot; on/in those who God was using for special purposes, i.e. Moses, Saul, Sampson, etc.  But that the ONLY two people that the Holy Spirit actually indwelled in permanently before Pentacost were King David and John the Baptist.  Then after Pentacost, as promised throughout the OT the HS is sent to indwell in ALL believers NEVER to be taken away.

However back to the OT and going back to the account of King Saul,  God specifically TOOK His Spirit away (1 Samuel 16:14) along with his Kingship  for disobedience and then anointed David as King.  When I first read this in the OT, I immediately was afraid that God would indeed take His Holy Spirit away from us if we disobeyed like Saul.  So I sought some clarification on this which is where I was explained  that it was not until after Pentacost that the HS actually indwells all believers as promised throughout the OT.

I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thanks bunches]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are studying King Saul in Sunday School.  I am under the understanding  that the Holy Spirit did indeed &#8220;rest&#8221; on/in those who God was using for special purposes, i.e. Moses, Saul, Sampson, etc.  But that the ONLY two people that the Holy Spirit actually indwelled in permanently before Pentacost were King David and John the Baptist.  Then after Pentacost, as promised throughout the OT the HS is sent to indwell in ALL believers NEVER to be taken away.</p>
<p>However back to the OT and going back to the account of King Saul,  God specifically TOOK His Spirit away (1 Samuel 16:14) along with his Kingship  for disobedience and then anointed David as King.  When I first read this in the OT, I immediately was afraid that God would indeed take His Holy Spirit away from us if we disobeyed like Saul.  So I sought some clarification on this which is where I was explained  that it was not until after Pentacost that the HS actually indwells all believers as promised throughout the OT.</p>
<p>I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thanks bunches</p>
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		<title>By: WordsofLife TheBible</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2011/09/14/did-the-holy-spirit-indwell-ot-believers/#comment-7776</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WordsofLife TheBible]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 16:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just as the coming of Messiah was the great promise of the Old Testament, so is the coming of the Spirit the great promise of the New Testament, although Jesus Christ is the lamb slain from before the foundation of the World and Holy Spirit is at work in the lives of the true believers through out the history. Atoning of sins by Christ&#039;s blood and renewing and regeneration by Holy Spirit is required for Salvation in any generation in the history of the world. The fruit (Gal 1:22) of the Spirit’s regenerating work is faith (Eph 2:8). By this Faith produced by the regenerating power of the Holy Spirit, Old Testament believers looked ahead to the cross, believing that what God had promised in regard to their redemption would come to pass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as the coming of Messiah was the great promise of the Old Testament, so is the coming of the Spirit the great promise of the New Testament, although Jesus Christ is the lamb slain from before the foundation of the World and Holy Spirit is at work in the lives of the true believers through out the history. Atoning of sins by Christ&#8217;s blood and renewing and regeneration by Holy Spirit is required for Salvation in any generation in the history of the world. The fruit (Gal 1:22) of the Spirit’s regenerating work is faith (Eph 2:8). By this Faith produced by the regenerating power of the Holy Spirit, Old Testament believers looked ahead to the cross, believing that what God had promised in regard to their redemption would come to pass.</p>
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		<title>By: WordsofLife TheBible</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2011/09/14/did-the-holy-spirit-indwell-ot-believers/#comment-7775</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WordsofLife TheBible]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 16:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just as the coming of Messiah was the great promise of the Old Testament, so is the coming of the Spirit the great promise of the New Testament, although ***Jesus Christ is the lamb slain from before the foundation of the World and Holy Spirit is at work in the lives of the true believers through out the history***. They are manifested in due time. Atoning of sins by Christ&#039;s blood and renewing and regeneration by Holy Spirit is required for Salvation in any generation in the history of the world. The fruit (Gal 1:22) of the Spirit’s regenerating work is faith (Eph 2:8). By this Faith produced by the regenerating power of the Holy Spirit, Old Testament believers looked ahead to the cross, believing that what God had promised in regard to their redemption would come to pass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as the coming of Messiah was the great promise of the Old Testament, so is the coming of the Spirit the great promise of the New Testament, although ***Jesus Christ is the lamb slain from before the foundation of the World and Holy Spirit is at work in the lives of the true believers through out the history***. They are manifested in due time. Atoning of sins by Christ&#8217;s blood and renewing and regeneration by Holy Spirit is required for Salvation in any generation in the history of the world. The fruit (Gal 1:22) of the Spirit’s regenerating work is faith (Eph 2:8). By this Faith produced by the regenerating power of the Holy Spirit, Old Testament believers looked ahead to the cross, believing that what God had promised in regard to their redemption would come to pass.</p>
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		<title>By: WordsofLife TheBible</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2011/09/14/did-the-holy-spirit-indwell-ot-believers/#comment-7774</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WordsofLife TheBible]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 15:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One must be born-again to worship God in Spirit and Truth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One must be born-again to worship God in Spirit and Truth.</p>
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