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Mars Hill, Driscoll and so on - Page 2 - Christian Forums — Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:00:40 +0000

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By: Armando

Armando — Sun, 26 Feb 2012 18:03:02 +0000

Ironically your post does is not helpful for the goal you desire.

By: Theodorus

Theodorus — Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:08:43 +0000

“Mars Hill is making a great impact here in the Puget Sound.”

Yes. But not an entirely positive impact. People who are bored with their churches, especially young people, are leaving their ho-hum boring churches for the excitement and multi-million dollar audio-visual spectacle that is Mars Hill on Sunday, and they are hearing a message laden with sexual innuendo their itching ears find stimulating. As for the world and the unchurched, they have been impacted by the negative stereotype created by a spiritually abusive system masquerading as “the Gospel” which recently brought disgrace on the church among the community – again. http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/02/01/mark-driscoll-mars-hill-church-and-the-merchant-of-venice

By: michelle

michelle — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:45:50 +0000

Thank you for sharing your testimony and perspective here, Lamar.

By: Matt

Matt — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:10:00 +0000

I agree. I have been listening to Mark Driscol on my ipod for over a year and I have never heard him say things that are rude or crude. I have heard he used to, but has changed. Mark is a very Godly man and brings his preaching to life by explaining the history and meaning of the passage. He explains the gospel so clearly. His preaching has changed me by getting me to look to Christ for everything.

By: All of us contextualize | Daniel Threlfall

All of us contextualize | Daniel Threlfall — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:16:42 +0000

[...] is at the crux of Christian mission. Today, I heard something by Al Mohler that was basic, yet helpful: We need to acknowledge that all of us contextualize…and [...]

By: Daniel Threlfall

Daniel Threlfall — Wed, 28 Dec 2011 19:03:06 +0000

Regardless of what one thinks of Mohler or Driscoll, contextualization is a key issue. Mohler’s comments on contextualization were helpful in this regard.

By: Lamar Carnes

Lamar Carnes — Sat, 03 Dec 2011 02:47:30 +0000

There are just some things a minister cannot engage in at all or they will lose their testimony totally and should resign from the ministry. If they do not have a “good report” of those who are “without or outside of the camp” they can’t even be a Pastor. Danger lurks when ministers “look like”, “act like”, and “engage in” all of the carnal acts of the flesh which seeks to burst forth in all of us at times. One of the first things a man given grace and was saved from death in the Flood was he “got drunk”! Lot also played around with the carnal fleshly desires and got drunk. In both cases havoc resulted. Yes, I know, drunkenness is the sin and not “just” short drink. But remember, in whose presence that “short” drink you engage in just might damage. A weak brother or sister who has been delivered from the beverages and would be tempted. We have responsibilites to others and Pastor’s for sure have a higher calling and greater responsiblity to the flock than to “engage” in filthy language, rude comments, and drinking booze to try and show how Liberal they are to others. In fact, other lost folks probably think the person is a fake and a hypocrit. I know I was saved from a life of that kind of stuff and I turned 100% away from it all with no regrets and if during my early days of following Christ I would have seen or heard something like this from a minister I would have never sat under his ministry for one moment! No, that is not legalistic. That is recognizing that God DOES teach us standards of conduct which when we walk in the Spirit the flesh and carnality are put down and kept in control. No, we are not perfect, but we don’t “clap our hands” that we engage in fleshly carnal appetites utilizing harmful drugs, bad words and harmful thoughts passed on verbally to others! We have a big job setting the standards out there and should not endorse “weak” “carnal” “fleshly” appetites or weaknesses in such a manner others can use that againsst us and the Gospel.
Ephesians chapter 5 clearly tells us what we need to know on these issues! It appears no one today seems to believe these Holy Spirit given words. They do not teach us we are “saved” or “sanctified” by not engaging, but it does teach when we are “saved” things follow in our life that are the opposite of those things generally – recognizing we may fail but we confess and repent and walk forward again in faith and holy living! The push toward being “culturally relevent” doesn’t imply at all we need to “lower” our standards of holy conduct and living to influence others for Christ. In fact, the opposite could occur. Making friends, eating with them, talking with them, helping them, etc., doesn’t mean we have to “act and be like them in conduct” at all! When you become “one of the good old boys” you have just lost your influence for Christ with them! You may get them in the door but what have you got them into and did Christ put them there? Only HE knows but I think it is a dangerous thing to go to far in this matter! We set the standards in the Church and they world must come “up” to them and the Church doesn’t go “down” to the world in their corruption but rather, keep our self unspotted from the world say’s the scripture!

By: Lamar Carnes

Lamar Carnes — Sat, 03 Dec 2011 02:30:45 +0000

The Bible even states clearly that we are NOT to offfend our brothers and sisters when they have convictions on certain matters. I was saved out of the “bars”, the “dives” and the “drinking alcohol” clubs. I never touched the stuff now that I am saved. It is a brew that makes me actually sick because of what it did to me and how it harmed me. In fact, my testimony would be shot through if I even lifted a bottle to my lips in front of a lost person.
Drinking doesn’t make you cool or clever or helpful to anyone at all. I am not saying you can’t perhaps have a small taste of some type of beverage that may have alcoholic content and if you do you have sinned. However, it is a bad beverage to say the very least. It is a drug and that is a fact. It is not a social beverage to taut and display to our young children at all. So it is still destroying lives every day, kiling people every day. You and I as a Christian and/or a Pastor have a higher calling to lower ourselves to the “gutter of the worlds favorite brew” in order to try and reach them. That is absolutely not true. I was in it and when saved from it when I was born again, I know how the “lost” people think about stuff like this. I can assure you 100% that a lost person doeesn’t get impressed because you lift a bottle of “bud” or a “snort of whiskey” at a party or any place he is located. If you, or Mr. Driscoll or anyone else thinks that they have lost all sense of reason and logic and also haven’t really “read” the hearts and minds of folks out there looking for something they can’t find except in the bottle! That “idol” they have “you” and others like “you and Driscoll”
seem to think is “fine to portray back to the idol worshipper” isn’t the way to go (I suppose you support the drinking stuff and if not I apologize)! So, we all need to re-evaluate all of this. I would be offended if you drank a beer, glass of wine, or whiskey in my presence if you called yourself a Christian. I can sit with a lost person as they drink knowing they are lost and don’t know better, but a Christian should know better than set up a standard which brings about a fall to countless millions! Having “solid theological” content on the Gospel doeesn’t make one a healthy Christian in the real world at all. We have many denominations which have on paper solid, strong theological words they say they believe, but their lives are far removed from living it out in real life. I like Paul am glad the Gospel of Christ is preached for whatever reason, but not happy to see the trend of “worldliness come into our church life” which had already had enough of that to start with! Now sanctioning it makes it doubly worse!

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Weekly Wraps (October 10-16) « Zoy Sauce Etc — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 05:04:53 +0000

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