Comments on: Wilderness University https://headhearthand.org/blog/2011/12/15/wilderness-university/  Informing Minds. Moving Hearts. Directing Hands. Mon, 23 Feb 2026 18:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.41 By: David Murray https://headhearthand.org/blog/2011/12/15/wilderness-university/#comment-4603 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 02:47:05 +0000 http://headhearthand.org/?p=5491#comment-4603 Dan: Yes, you’re right, many in the congregation agreed with my convictions, but there were property issues that complicated things for some of them. It’s difficult in a public forum like this to go into what advice I gave to them.

]]> By: Dan https://headhearthand.org/blog/2011/12/15/wilderness-university/#comment-4551 Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:52:03 +0000 http://headhearthand.org/?p=5491#comment-4551 One more question, David:

I presume that there were some in the congregation you left who agreed with your convictions in regard to your church split. After you were gone, presumably they were left to grieve your loss but eventually had to lay aside their own pride, disappointment, and anger.

What advice did you have for them then, and would you have any different advice now?

]]> By: Dan https://headhearthand.org/blog/2011/12/15/wilderness-university/#comment-4550 Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:43:51 +0000 http://headhearthand.org/?p=5491#comment-4550 Wow, this hits home, David. I don’t think I’d realized what you had been through. My former pastor, who became a good friend while with our congregation, is going through the same thing you did. But many of us have grappled with the fallout and are learning some very similar things as we recover. My own summary of it would be “the hard knocks of the sovereignty of God”. But ultimately it is all for our good (if we believe Scripture), despite the emotional anguish that comes with it.

]]> By: Foppe VanderZwaag https://headhearthand.org/blog/2011/12/15/wilderness-university/#comment-4549 Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:35:06 +0000 http://headhearthand.org/?p=5491#comment-4549 I think I’ve been there a few times. Sometimes I wonder if I ever left it. How can you without graduating?!

]]> By: Todd Hostetter https://headhearthand.org/blog/2011/12/15/wilderness-university/#comment-4548 Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:24:55 +0000 http://headhearthand.org/?p=5491#comment-4548 This touched me. Maybe it’s the commraderie found in Wilderness University. I must be somewhere between my “junior and senior year” at WU and have certainly learned a lot about me in the last 2 years. I am a lucky man!

]]> By: Five to Live By | RPM Ministries https://headhearthand.org/blog/2011/12/15/wilderness-university/#comment-4545 Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:46:44 +0000 http://headhearthand.org/?p=5491#comment-4545 [...] How does God “educate” us? In many ways, including the proverbial “school of hard knocks.” My friend, David Murray, calls it “Wilderness University.” He talks about what Steve Jobs learned in that school and what he learned. A very interesting read: Wilderness University.  [...]

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