Comments on: A new breed and a dying breed https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/06/12/a-new-breed-and-a-dying-breed/  Informing Minds. Moving Hearts. Directing Hands. Mon, 23 Feb 2026 18:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.41 By: David Murray https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/06/12/a-new-breed-and-a-dying-breed/#comment-6342 Sat, 16 Jun 2012 11:55:26 +0000 http://headhearthand.org/?p=8181#comment-6342 Thomas: I think both of your points are valid. There’s no question that “Counselor” carries more social cachet today than “Preacher.” And yes, people are much quicker to go to the counselor. I suppose my question would be, “Do we cave into these trends? What can we do to resist them and even reverse them?” Great points though, thanks.

]]> By: David Murray https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/06/12/a-new-breed-and-a-dying-breed/#comment-6341 Sat, 16 Jun 2012 11:52:54 +0000 http://headhearthand.org/?p=8181#comment-6341 That’s a great link, Dik. Thanks for letting me know about it.

]]> By: Thomas https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/06/12/a-new-breed-and-a-dying-breed/#comment-6340 Sat, 16 Jun 2012 03:43:53 +0000 http://headhearthand.org/?p=8181#comment-6340 I personally have wondered what has happened to the Pastor’s visiting hours, the hours that he would be in the office available for the flock. I’m not that old, but I have seen that that has changed, and it appears that your article might have gotten to the reason why.

I personally am called to shepherd or pastor the flock of God, I love to preach/teach and I also love God’s people and counseling and personally disciplining people for me is an honor, and I do think it goes with the calling.

A couple of questions,

Since the term “preacher” has become a byword by society, and a lot of places limit preaching to about 30 mins, do you think the transition with the new breed is a reflection of the rejection of the preachy preacher?

Do you think it could reflect a cultural influence, where people are quicker to go to a “counselor” instead of a pastor who can counsel?

Just some thoughts that came up while reading the article and commenting. Thanks for the post.

]]> By: 5 to Live By: The Top 5 Christian Blog Posts of the Week | RPM Ministries https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/06/12/a-new-breed-and-a-dying-breed/#comment-6326 Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:01:18 +0000 http://headhearthand.org/?p=8181#comment-6326 [...] yourself a pastor without constant counseling involvement in people’s messy lives?” His post is A New Breed and a Dying Breed. In response to David’s response, I wrote, Should Every Pastor Be a [...]

]]> By: Friday’s Five to Live By | Biblical Counseling Coalition Blogs https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/06/12/a-new-breed-and-a-dying-breed/#comment-6325 Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:04:06 +0000 http://headhearthand.org/?p=8181#comment-6325 [...] David Murray responds to a BCC Grace & Truth post by Deepak Reju. Read David’s thoughts in A New Breed and a Dying Breed. [...]

]]> By: Should Every Pastor Be a Counselor? | RPM Ministries https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/06/12/a-new-breed-and-a-dying-breed/#comment-6319 Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:51:19 +0000 http://headhearthand.org/?p=8181#comment-6319 [...] that pastoral counseling specialists may imply that not every pastor should be a counselor. In A New Breed and a Dying Breed, David asked the insightful question, “Can you really call yourself a pastor without constant [...]

]]> By: dik https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/06/12/a-new-breed-and-a-dying-breed/#comment-6318 Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:49:21 +0000 http://headhearthand.org/?p=8181#comment-6318 Interesting take on this from a business perspective: http://bit.ly/KY0LRU

]]> By: David Murray https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/06/12/a-new-breed-and-a-dying-breed/#comment-6314 Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:48:27 +0000 http://headhearthand.org/?p=8181#comment-6314 Thanks Bob. That’s helpful.

]]> By: David Murray https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/06/12/a-new-breed-and-a-dying-breed/#comment-6313 Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:47:31 +0000 http://headhearthand.org/?p=8181#comment-6313 I’m afraid that you might be right, Matt. But we can still hope for a more biblical model.

]]> By: David Murray https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/06/12/a-new-breed-and-a-dying-breed/#comment-6312 Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:44:41 +0000 http://headhearthand.org/?p=8181#comment-6312 Family Practitioner in US. I like the image.

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