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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heather]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have somewhat of a different perspective on this matter... I am an attractive woman. I am careful to dress modestly but I&#039;ve still be accused of being immoral. I&#039;ve worn a $5 baggy tshirt from Walmart to church and was still accused of trying to tempt men. I was not. I am married. And if that wasn&#039;t enough,  I fear God. This had happened to me in two churches (main church and sister church) and in both of them,  I have caught the pastor point blank staring at me.  The pastor stopped preaching once because he was staring at me so hard. It happened two more times and the people in the church began to look at me like i was...&quot;someone bad&quot; One time I was worshipping with my eyes closed and the holy spirit told me that the pastor was staring at me. I opened my eyes and sure enough, he was watching me like I was a movie. One day out of the blue, the pastor decided that I was a dangerous person and I was told to leave. I was told that I&#039;d be escorted off the property if I showed my face there again.  If leadership from the church see me in the street they warn their friends to not speak to me. I seriously believe that I was kicked out bc the pastor lusted after me and blamed me for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have somewhat of a different perspective on this matter&#8230; I am an attractive woman. I am careful to dress modestly but I&#8217;ve still be accused of being immoral. I&#8217;ve worn a $5 baggy tshirt from Walmart to church and was still accused of trying to tempt men. I was not. I am married. And if that wasn&#8217;t enough,  I fear God. This had happened to me in two churches (main church and sister church) and in both of them,  I have caught the pastor point blank staring at me.  The pastor stopped preaching once because he was staring at me so hard. It happened two more times and the people in the church began to look at me like i was&#8230;&#8221;someone bad&#8221; One time I was worshipping with my eyes closed and the holy spirit told me that the pastor was staring at me. I opened my eyes and sure enough, he was watching me like I was a movie. One day out of the blue, the pastor decided that I was a dangerous person and I was told to leave. I was told that I&#8217;d be escorted off the property if I showed my face there again.  If leadership from the church see me in the street they warn their friends to not speak to me. I seriously believe that I was kicked out bc the pastor lusted after me and blamed me for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Why I Won&#8217;t Be Attending #T4G 2018 - Borrowed Light</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/10/29/what-would-i-do-if-i-was-falsely-accused-of-sexual-immorality/#comment-50439</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Why I Won&#8217;t Be Attending #T4G 2018 - Borrowed Light]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2018 16:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] cover up. While I realize some dangerous implications from this, I follow David Murray’s thoughts here. Particularly of note is Murray’s fifth [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] cover up. While I realize some dangerous implications from this, I follow David Murray’s thoughts here. Particularly of note is Murray’s fifth [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is amazing how Jesus ministered to the woman at the well.
He was all alone as far as we know with a woman of definite reputation of an adulterous life. Here is Jesus - Son of man a Jew even talking to a Samaritan woman.
That would have fuelled much allegations in the community of that time. Yet the Father called Him to minister to a woman all on His own..... Let him who has no sin cast the first stone. The truth will always prevail. God sees the heart and motives of all.
In the world you will have tribulation... But I have overcome the world says God.
No matter if you have people around you and have a pure heart - you could find yourself talking plainly to a woman and still be accused of saying something that was mis-understood by the lady and be falsely accused - especially if that lady has an unknown mental condition. That has been my experience. Still praying and trusting God for vindication.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amazing how Jesus ministered to the woman at the well.<br />
He was all alone as far as we know with a woman of definite reputation of an adulterous life. Here is Jesus &#8211; Son of man a Jew even talking to a Samaritan woman.<br />
That would have fuelled much allegations in the community of that time. Yet the Father called Him to minister to a woman all on His own&#8230;.. Let him who has no sin cast the first stone. The truth will always prevail. God sees the heart and motives of all.<br />
In the world you will have tribulation&#8230; But I have overcome the world says God.<br />
No matter if you have people around you and have a pure heart &#8211; you could find yourself talking plainly to a woman and still be accused of saying something that was mis-understood by the lady and be falsely accused &#8211; especially if that lady has an unknown mental condition. That has been my experience. Still praying and trusting God for vindication.</p>
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		<title>By: DLE</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DLE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate to be cynical, but in 35+ years of being an active witness to how churches run, I&#039;ve never seen a truly falsely accused person go free. Every last one has been ruined to some extent.

What is truly horrifying is that I have seen some people falsely accused, but with overwhelming evidence to their innocence, yet because the accuser was considered an important person in the church or was related to an important person in the church, that innocent person was made a sacrificial lamb to hide much deeper problems in the church.

It&#039;s sad to think that the innocent often meet the same end as the guilty, but if we were not so worried about appearances, more innocents would be declared not guilty rather than seeing their entire ministry go up in flames.

And even then, even if someone is guilty as sin, where is the grace? I&#039;m always hearing about &quot;restoring sinners,&quot; yet I&#039;ve never seen this happen in reality. When was the last time a church leader did something stupid, repented, was counseled, and then was restored? I&#039;ve never seen it happen. Yes, we talk about it, but it might as well be a fairy tale.

Worst of all, when someone is made a sacrificial lamb, no one ever goes back and helps that person rebuild. Too often, the stance taken resembles Pilate&#039;s washing of the hands. What a terrible witness.

The American Church is far too concerned with how people perceive it, particularly individual churches. Until we get over ourselves, this issue will continue to grind up good people. Too often, even the whiff of scandal is enough to get someone booted locally (or worse, blackballed widely). And that&#039;s a crime against that person and against the Lord.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to be cynical, but in 35+ years of being an active witness to how churches run, I&#8217;ve never seen a truly falsely accused person go free. Every last one has been ruined to some extent.</p>
<p>What is truly horrifying is that I have seen some people falsely accused, but with overwhelming evidence to their innocence, yet because the accuser was considered an important person in the church or was related to an important person in the church, that innocent person was made a sacrificial lamb to hide much deeper problems in the church.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad to think that the innocent often meet the same end as the guilty, but if we were not so worried about appearances, more innocents would be declared not guilty rather than seeing their entire ministry go up in flames.</p>
<p>And even then, even if someone is guilty as sin, where is the grace? I&#8217;m always hearing about &#8220;restoring sinners,&#8221; yet I&#8217;ve never seen this happen in reality. When was the last time a church leader did something stupid, repented, was counseled, and then was restored? I&#8217;ve never seen it happen. Yes, we talk about it, but it might as well be a fairy tale.</p>
<p>Worst of all, when someone is made a sacrificial lamb, no one ever goes back and helps that person rebuild. Too often, the stance taken resembles Pilate&#8217;s washing of the hands. What a terrible witness.</p>
<p>The American Church is far too concerned with how people perceive it, particularly individual churches. Until we get over ourselves, this issue will continue to grind up good people. Too often, even the whiff of scandal is enough to get someone booted locally (or worse, blackballed widely). And that&#8217;s a crime against that person and against the Lord.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hutton</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Hutton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s always a bit risky to hypothesise about things others are going through.  I&#039;ll make a couple of comments, if I may.

Point 1.  There is nothing you can do to protect yourself from false accusations.  Allegations are often regarded as credible and suspects as &quot;perps&quot; despite what the law says.  It&#039;s easy for anyone to say such and such happened and very difficult to prove it didn&#039;t.  Be very careful, but realise being careful may not be enough.

Point 3.  If someone has just lied about you, be careful of reaching out.  Make sure it&#039;s not about you seeking an earthly vindication.  Be aware that a liar (for whatever reason) is likely to use any &quot;reaching out&quot; against you and that in some circumstances reaching out would be construed by authorities as harrassment or worse.  Also, if someone has convinced themselves you did something when you didn&#039;t, what closure or consolation can you bring them?  You can only stir it up again.

This makes points 6, 7 and 8 all the more important.

But a question.
Is our thinking on this influenced by our worlds attitude to sexual misconduct and sex crimes?  Where is the Biblical outworking of &quot;do not entertain a charge against an elder unless it is supported bu 2 or 3 witnesses&#039;?  Take Dinesh, If the facts are as they were stated in his article then there was nothing wrong with his article.  The accusations against him were scurrilous and malicious and lacked integrity and the authors have publicly sinned against him and ought to be called publicly on that sin.
It all comes down to what actually happened.  That will come out in time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s always a bit risky to hypothesise about things others are going through.  I&#8217;ll make a couple of comments, if I may.</p>
<p>Point 1.  There is nothing you can do to protect yourself from false accusations.  Allegations are often regarded as credible and suspects as &#8220;perps&#8221; despite what the law says.  It&#8217;s easy for anyone to say such and such happened and very difficult to prove it didn&#8217;t.  Be very careful, but realise being careful may not be enough.</p>
<p>Point 3.  If someone has just lied about you, be careful of reaching out.  Make sure it&#8217;s not about you seeking an earthly vindication.  Be aware that a liar (for whatever reason) is likely to use any &#8220;reaching out&#8221; against you and that in some circumstances reaching out would be construed by authorities as harrassment or worse.  Also, if someone has convinced themselves you did something when you didn&#8217;t, what closure or consolation can you bring them?  You can only stir it up again.</p>
<p>This makes points 6, 7 and 8 all the more important.</p>
<p>But a question.<br />
Is our thinking on this influenced by our worlds attitude to sexual misconduct and sex crimes?  Where is the Biblical outworking of &#8220;do not entertain a charge against an elder unless it is supported bu 2 or 3 witnesses&#8217;?  Take Dinesh, If the facts are as they were stated in his article then there was nothing wrong with his article.  The accusations against him were scurrilous and malicious and lacked integrity and the authors have publicly sinned against him and ought to be called publicly on that sin.<br />
It all comes down to what actually happened.  That will come out in time.</p>
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		<title>By: David Murray</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/10/29/what-would-i-do-if-i-was-falsely-accused-of-sexual-immorality/#comment-10072</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Murray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eight points! Wish I had the time, Alastair. Suffice to say that it would involve prayerfully considering the impact of the accusations on my family, my congregation, the wider Christian community. I don&#039;t think someone should just step aside whenever an allegation is made. There has to be some initial weighing of the accusers and the accusations. Otherwise we&#039;re inviting malcontents and others to do their worst.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eight points! Wish I had the time, Alastair. Suffice to say that it would involve prayerfully considering the impact of the accusations on my family, my congregation, the wider Christian community. I don&#8217;t think someone should just step aside whenever an allegation is made. There has to be some initial weighing of the accusers and the accusations. Otherwise we&#8217;re inviting malcontents and others to do their worst.</p>
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		<title>By: David Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Murray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hadn&#039;t given much thought to how it was handled, Adam. Obviously one would hope that there was much more &quot;behind-the-scenes&quot; attempts to deal with this before going public. Often such attempts are stonewalled, however.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t given much thought to how it was handled, Adam. Obviously one would hope that there was much more &#8220;behind-the-scenes&#8221; attempts to deal with this before going public. Often such attempts are stonewalled, however.</p>
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		<title>By: David Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Murray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I did think about the danger of inviting accusation. However, Wesley&#039;s right, my motive was about helping us to pan ahead as I&#039;ve seen so many make a complete mess of this in the heat of the battle&quot; as you say.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did think about the danger of inviting accusation. However, Wesley&#8217;s right, my motive was about helping us to pan ahead as I&#8217;ve seen so many make a complete mess of this in the heat of the battle&#8221; as you say.</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wesley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Dr. Murray is simply encouraging all of us to think ahead on these things and plan now so as not to be trying to figure out the particulars of a biblical response in the midst of the battle.  I doubt he, or anyone, would be &#039;inviting&#039; any such attention.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Dr. Murray is simply encouraging all of us to think ahead on these things and plan now so as not to be trying to figure out the particulars of a biblical response in the midst of the battle.  I doubt he, or anyone, would be &#8216;inviting&#8217; any such attention.</p>
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		<title>By: David Daniels</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/10/29/what-would-i-do-if-i-was-falsely-accused-of-sexual-immorality/#comment-10065</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Daniels]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 14:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A fine post, but I wonder, are you inviting someone to falsely accuse you by publicly musing about how you would handle it if it came? 

In my view, some posts are better remaining unwritten until the need truly arises.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fine post, but I wonder, are you inviting someone to falsely accuse you by publicly musing about how you would handle it if it came? </p>
<p>In my view, some posts are better remaining unwritten until the need truly arises.</p>
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