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		<title>By: Browse Worthy: Homosexuality &#124; Gentle Reformation</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/11/26/can-we-have-a-break-from-homosexuality/#comment-13798</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 20:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] agreed with David Murray a few months ago when he asked for a moratorium on speaking and posting about homosexuality.  I worked at actually practicing my own moratorium, [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Latest Links &#124; blog of dan</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dave Gehrls</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/11/26/can-we-have-a-break-from-homosexuality/#comment-11027</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Gehrls]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Professor Murray, you make several interesting points, then, it appears to me, that you pull Eph 5:12 completely of context.

11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.  12 For it is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret.  13 But everything exposed by the light becomes visible,  14 for it is light that makes everything visible. This is why it is said: 
“Wake up, O sleeper, 
rise from the dead, 
and Christ will shine on you.” 
15 Be very careful, then, how you live—not as unwise but as wise,  16 making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil.  17 Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord’s will is.  Eph 5: 11-17 NIV

My research has shown that the average church has failed to teach, especially the youth, a clear, wisely presented understanding of what the Bible teaches on immorality and especially homosexuality.

Reading Eph 5 from verse 1 give us the full context of this great call to turn from immorality and become imitators of God.

God&#039;s love and grace cannot be separated from God&#039;s justice. Jesus began his preaching ministry with &quot;Repent...&quot;  -Matt 4:17
 
God&#039;s love demands that we call sin...SIN.  Only guilty sinners realize their need for God&#039;s mercy. God&#039;s love and grace which sent Jesus to die on the cross only has meaning in the reality of my sin.

God&#039;s word is light that exposes our sin. &quot;…through the law we become conscious of sin.&quot; Rom 3:20  Until sin becomes sinful we don&#039;t feel the Conviction needed for Repentance and Forgiveness which leads to Saving Faith. 

God&#039;s light of truth which exposes my sin also reveals the cross.  When my sin becomes sinful then the Blood becomes the BlOOD, the Cross becomes the CROSS, and in that light I either choose to cling to my sin or repent and kneel at the Cross. 
 
Is Catholic theologian Ross Douthat accurately nailing us evangelicals as well as Catholics in his book, &quot;Bad Religion - How we became a nation of heretics&quot;?
&quot;Has the church lost the ability to help people deal with their sin?&quot; 

The deeper agenda in the homosexual controversy is an attack on our 1st Amendment freedoms of religion…they are attacking us…so we cannot help but speak out.  Where some have failed and hurt the cause of Christ is in how they speak out. We need speech…full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone.” Col 4:5]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professor Murray, you make several interesting points, then, it appears to me, that you pull Eph 5:12 completely of context.</p>
<p>11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.  12 For it is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret.  13 But everything exposed by the light becomes visible,  14 for it is light that makes everything visible. This is why it is said:<br />
“Wake up, O sleeper,<br />
rise from the dead,<br />
and Christ will shine on you.”<br />
15 Be very careful, then, how you live—not as unwise but as wise,  16 making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil.  17 Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord’s will is.  Eph 5: 11-17 NIV</p>
<p>My research has shown that the average church has failed to teach, especially the youth, a clear, wisely presented understanding of what the Bible teaches on immorality and especially homosexuality.</p>
<p>Reading Eph 5 from verse 1 give us the full context of this great call to turn from immorality and become imitators of God.</p>
<p>God&#8217;s love and grace cannot be separated from God&#8217;s justice. Jesus began his preaching ministry with &#8220;Repent&#8230;&#8221;  -Matt 4:17</p>
<p>God&#8217;s love demands that we call sin&#8230;SIN.  Only guilty sinners realize their need for God&#8217;s mercy. God&#8217;s love and grace which sent Jesus to die on the cross only has meaning in the reality of my sin.</p>
<p>God&#8217;s word is light that exposes our sin. &#8220;…through the law we become conscious of sin.&#8221; Rom 3:20  Until sin becomes sinful we don&#8217;t feel the Conviction needed for Repentance and Forgiveness which leads to Saving Faith. </p>
<p>God&#8217;s light of truth which exposes my sin also reveals the cross.  When my sin becomes sinful then the Blood becomes the BlOOD, the Cross becomes the CROSS, and in that light I either choose to cling to my sin or repent and kneel at the Cross. </p>
<p>Is Catholic theologian Ross Douthat accurately nailing us evangelicals as well as Catholics in his book, &#8220;Bad Religion &#8211; How we became a nation of heretics&#8221;?<br />
&#8220;Has the church lost the ability to help people deal with their sin?&#8221; </p>
<p>The deeper agenda in the homosexual controversy is an attack on our 1st Amendment freedoms of religion…they are attacking us…so we cannot help but speak out.  Where some have failed and hurt the cause of Christ is in how they speak out. We need speech…full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone.” Col 4:5</p>
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		<title>By: Peter D.</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/11/26/can-we-have-a-break-from-homosexuality/#comment-11019</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The way it is handled is perceived as hateful. By focusing on one thing, we have forgotten about the real mission of the church. Love God First And Best. Love Everyone No Matter What. Preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ.  Make Disciples. That is the very clear parameter we are given. When we do these things, the Holy Spirit can work, convict, correct and heal. I grow weary of the subject to the point of saying, &quot;let&#039;s talk about something else&quot;. If they don&#039;t, I leave the room.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way it is handled is perceived as hateful. By focusing on one thing, we have forgotten about the real mission of the church. Love God First And Best. Love Everyone No Matter What. Preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ.  Make Disciples. That is the very clear parameter we are given. When we do these things, the Holy Spirit can work, convict, correct and heal. I grow weary of the subject to the point of saying, &#8220;let&#8217;s talk about something else&#8221;. If they don&#8217;t, I leave the room.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Thompson</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/11/26/can-we-have-a-break-from-homosexuality/#comment-11014</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Thompson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 12:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see it the same way, Scott. Most of the time when I hear Christians bring it up, it&#039;s in response to accusations/demands/questions/activism from the world.

While I agree that it&#039;s ridiculous how often it&#039;s talked about (considering we&#039;re talking about a tiny percent of the population), I don&#039;t see a solution, when most of the time it&#039;s not Christians who bring the topic or issue up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see it the same way, Scott. Most of the time when I hear Christians bring it up, it&#8217;s in response to accusations/demands/questions/activism from the world.</p>
<p>While I agree that it&#8217;s ridiculous how often it&#8217;s talked about (considering we&#8217;re talking about a tiny percent of the population), I don&#8217;t see a solution, when most of the time it&#8217;s not Christians who bring the topic or issue up.</p>
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		<title>By: Taking a sabbatical from all this ‘homosexuality’ talk &#124; OpenArms.tv</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/11/26/can-we-have-a-break-from-homosexuality/#comment-10997</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Taking a sabbatical from all this ‘homosexuality’ talk &#124; OpenArms.tv]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 05:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The Apostle Paul said of the unfruitful works of darkness, “For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret” (Eph. 5:12). If that verse doesn’t apply to some extent to this evil, I don’t know what it does cover.  He also writes:  I imagine most homosexuals are delighted with the way Christians are helping to normalize conversations and discussions about this sin, especially without regard for the ages, innocence, and vulnerability of those who are present. I’ve lost count of the number of times Christian adults have talked about homosexuality in front of my little girls. It makes me so angry, because I want them to hear about healthy and beautiful sexual relations, long before being exposed to the most perverse and twisted – and I want them to hear it from me.  So&#8230; what do YOU think?  Should every Christian blog, magazine, and in-person conversation take a little time off of the whole homosexuality thing?  At least for a while?  Great idea or horrible one?  Todd  // Read more here&#8230; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Apostle Paul said of the unfruitful works of darkness, “For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret” (Eph. 5:12). If that verse doesn’t apply to some extent to this evil, I don’t know what it does cover.  He also writes:  I imagine most homosexuals are delighted with the way Christians are helping to normalize conversations and discussions about this sin, especially without regard for the ages, innocence, and vulnerability of those who are present. I’ve lost count of the number of times Christian adults have talked about homosexuality in front of my little girls. It makes me so angry, because I want them to hear about healthy and beautiful sexual relations, long before being exposed to the most perverse and twisted – and I want them to hear it from me.  So&#8230; what do YOU think?  Should every Christian blog, magazine, and in-person conversation take a little time off of the whole homosexuality thing?  At least for a while?  Great idea or horrible one?  Todd  // Read more here&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Murray</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/11/26/can-we-have-a-break-from-homosexuality/#comment-10993</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Murray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 03:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Autsin: I&#039;m trying to reduce people&#039;s focus on this sin. Your comment does the opposite.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Autsin: I&#8217;m trying to reduce people&#8217;s focus on this sin. Your comment does the opposite.</p>
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		<title>By: Clay</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/11/26/can-we-have-a-break-from-homosexuality/#comment-10974</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a link to your site on gracetraveler.com and the title of this article grabbed me so I just had to pop over and read it. I have been guilty of being lured into this trap, it just seems so hard with the topic being placed all around, but what you said really resonated with me as true. I heard a long time ago that the way banks train tellers to spot counterfeits is by over exposing them to real money so that when a fake one comes across they can spot it right away, not because they have been studying and dwelling on the false, but because they know the truth so well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a link to your site on gracetraveler.com and the title of this article grabbed me so I just had to pop over and read it. I have been guilty of being lured into this trap, it just seems so hard with the topic being placed all around, but what you said really resonated with me as true. I heard a long time ago that the way banks train tellers to spot counterfeits is by over exposing them to real money so that when a fake one comes across they can spot it right away, not because they have been studying and dwelling on the false, but because they know the truth so well.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/11/26/can-we-have-a-break-from-homosexuality/#comment-10967</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[haven&#039;t written or spoken about it myself in some time, but I&#039;m not sure of the issue here.  It&#039;s not like Christians are the ones bringing it up.  Most of the discussion I hear is related to responses from the world.  It&#039;s blasted at us constantly.  Students have it shoved down their throats at school, media is all over the issue, I can&#039;t even watch a football game without an ad for some show with a prominent gay character.  So asking Christians to ignore the issue seems a bit much.  Again, I don&#039;t have regular conversations about the issue, but when it&#039;s thrown at me, I do feel the need to respond in a biblical way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haven&#8217;t written or spoken about it myself in some time, but I&#8217;m not sure of the issue here.  It&#8217;s not like Christians are the ones bringing it up.  Most of the discussion I hear is related to responses from the world.  It&#8217;s blasted at us constantly.  Students have it shoved down their throats at school, media is all over the issue, I can&#8217;t even watch a football game without an ad for some show with a prominent gay character.  So asking Christians to ignore the issue seems a bit much.  Again, I don&#8217;t have regular conversations about the issue, but when it&#8217;s thrown at me, I do feel the need to respond in a biblical way.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/11/26/can-we-have-a-break-from-homosexuality/#comment-10963</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great idea David. I&#039;m in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea David. I&#8217;m in.</p>
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