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	<title>Comments on: Check out</title>
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	<description> Informing Minds. Moving Hearts. Directing Hands.</description>
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		<title>By: David Murray</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 02:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not in the classic sense. Sounds more like a federation to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not in the classic sense. Sounds more like a federation to me.</p>
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		<title>By: David Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Murray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 02:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for sharing these thoughts, Dan. I appreciate your perspective.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing these thoughts, Dan. I appreciate your perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Woods</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gordon Woods]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In praise of denominations--I am a member of a church which identifies itself as a member of the Southern Baptist Convention; yet my church is not subject to any of the demoninational &quot;controls&quot; listed in the article. We can act as freely as any independent, non-demonational church.  Does this mean that Southern Baptist are not a demonination?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In praise of denominations&#8211;I am a member of a church which identifies itself as a member of the Southern Baptist Convention; yet my church is not subject to any of the demoninational &#8220;controls&#8221; listed in the article. We can act as freely as any independent, non-demonational church.  Does this mean that Southern Baptist are not a demonination?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2012/12/31/check-out-256/#comment-12480</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: Denominations

Dr. Murray, I don&#039;t know of your experiences, but coming from 20+ years in non-denominationalism, I&#039;ve recently seen many of its warts. It&#039;s to the degree that I&#039;ve been seeing (on paper, at least) the confessional Reformed branches to be as close to fully biblical Christianity as we&#039;re ever going to see in this world. Carl Trueman&#039;s recent book delves more deeply into some of the things that Jason Helopoulos enumerates in his blog post. I suppose it is possible to have healthy non-denominational churches, but they seem much more vulnerable to the mindset of the world, even if I understand that many denominations are equally enamored with pushing off from the historical moorings for the sake of relevance and progress.  When I lost a pastor who simply wanted to preach from Scripture and worship according to Scripture, I knew that there was trouble in independent evangelicalism. Of course, seeing the shortcomings of what I see most closely can cause me to be blind to the shortcomings of denominations, but at least in the confessions as a ministerial summary of what Scripture teaches, there is something there to bind a body of believers together. True enough, independent churches may also embrace the ecumenical creeds and historic confessions, but that is not the situation in which I find myself so I cannot adequately comment on such churches.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Denominations</p>
<p>Dr. Murray, I don&#8217;t know of your experiences, but coming from 20+ years in non-denominationalism, I&#8217;ve recently seen many of its warts. It&#8217;s to the degree that I&#8217;ve been seeing (on paper, at least) the confessional Reformed branches to be as close to fully biblical Christianity as we&#8217;re ever going to see in this world. Carl Trueman&#8217;s recent book delves more deeply into some of the things that Jason Helopoulos enumerates in his blog post. I suppose it is possible to have healthy non-denominational churches, but they seem much more vulnerable to the mindset of the world, even if I understand that many denominations are equally enamored with pushing off from the historical moorings for the sake of relevance and progress.  When I lost a pastor who simply wanted to preach from Scripture and worship according to Scripture, I knew that there was trouble in independent evangelicalism. Of course, seeing the shortcomings of what I see most closely can cause me to be blind to the shortcomings of denominations, but at least in the confessions as a ministerial summary of what Scripture teaches, there is something there to bind a body of believers together. True enough, independent churches may also embrace the ecumenical creeds and historic confessions, but that is not the situation in which I find myself so I cannot adequately comment on such churches.</p>
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