Comments on: 13 Reasons why Election is not Foreseen Faith https://headhearthand.org/blog/2013/02/14/13-damaging-consequences-of-understanding-election-as-foreseen-faith/  Informing Minds. Moving Hearts. Directing Hands. Mon, 23 Feb 2026 18:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.41 By: billy white https://headhearthand.org/blog/2013/02/14/13-damaging-consequences-of-understanding-election-as-foreseen-faith/#comment-33820 Tue, 26 Nov 2013 18:36:38 +0000 http://headhearthand.org/?p=11717#comment-33820 very helpful. i believe it was Sproul who noted that it boils down to Total Inability. Calvinists believe man is spiritually dead and Romans 3:10ff refers to all lost folk. Arminians don’t. whatever lost man is, he still has enough life in him to make a “decision.” Thankfully God chose some or none of us would be saved. keep up the helpful posts. they are a blessing.

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]]> By: Mushet https://headhearthand.org/blog/2013/02/14/13-damaging-consequences-of-understanding-election-as-foreseen-faith/#comment-21552 Thu, 18 Apr 2013 14:07:17 +0000 http://headhearthand.org/?p=11717#comment-21552 I read the claims made in the article and I respectfully disagree. The Biblical fact that God’s election of man is based on foreseen faith in no way, shape, or form, denigrates the Divine sovereignty and character of God. On the contrary, it does away with the horrific unbiblical contradictions and problems seen in the teachings of Five Point Calvinism. If Calvinism is true, for example, then God arbitrarilly and fatalistically picks who will be blessed in heaven forever and who will burn in eternal torment forever in Hell. I in no way deny the Biblical literal truth of eternal sulfuric Hellfire in the Lake of Fire for all who are lost, all who reject the Lord Jesus Christ as God and their only eternal Savior. But, Five Point TULIP Calvinism (true, consistent Calvinism) is totally fatalistic; it has God pre deciding everything and being the author of sin. God in this view intentionally creates people to burn forever. You may say: “But even in your view if God knows all things God knows that when He created humans, some would reject Christ and burn forever. That is no different than what we believe.” Yes God knew that. Absolutely. But that in no way takes away the fact that these people chose to use their free will choice to reject Christ. God knows all things I will do and what I will choose but all of my choices are still my own.

Foreseen faith still gives God all the glory. He the Lord Jesus Christ is the Savior, not you and not me. If you offer a starving beggar a loaf of bread, who gets the glory in that situation? You or the beggar? You do because you are the one giving it to him. Just because he reaches out for it does not make it a work on his part and does not make him the honored one. You, in that situation, out of the kindness of your heart fed him. Same with us and God. Jesus offers us His grace and His mercy from eternal Hell and when we exercise faith alone in Christ alone we are made eternally secure and He gets all the glory for this. Why must Calvinists be so philosophically minded and demand that there is some “wordless mystery” to this?

Regarding prayer, this in no way strips the power of prayer. God can use various methods and means to work on the hearts of people but yes ultimately if someone truly and completely rejects the Lord Jesus Christ as their only eternal Savior they will burn in Hell forever. God honors man’s choices.

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]]> By: James O'Brien https://headhearthand.org/blog/2013/02/14/13-damaging-consequences-of-understanding-election-as-foreseen-faith/#comment-14183 Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:58:08 +0000 http://headhearthand.org/?p=11717#comment-14183 Add a 14th reason. It makes God dependent on man for his knowledge. Ask any sincere believer if God knows or God learns. I’ve done this many times with people of every kind of ecclesiastical background. They always, without exception, answer immediately and instinctively that God knows. He does not learn. But election based on foreseen faith means, quite simply, that God looks and learns. That this knowledge is from eternity does not change the fact that God must look to learn what we will do. Every Christian should recoil from the thought, that God is dependent on us for anything at all. There is a kind of heart knowledge that the Spirit teaches, but is sometimes lost when we speak theologically. If Christians who believe in foreseen election (a theological proposition) understood how it contradicted what they know in their hearts, they would immediately reject their view. (That may not be the best way to describe this disjunction, but it’s the best I’ve discovered so far.)

]]> By: David Murray https://headhearthand.org/blog/2013/02/14/13-damaging-consequences-of-understanding-election-as-foreseen-faith/#comment-14182 Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:24:29 +0000 http://headhearthand.org/?p=11717#comment-14182 I agree Andy. I was only summarizing 20 pages from a chapter in the book. The chapter itself has a ton of scripture references.

]]> By: Andy https://headhearthand.org/blog/2013/02/14/13-damaging-consequences-of-understanding-election-as-foreseen-faith/#comment-14181 Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:11:56 +0000 http://headhearthand.org/?p=11717#comment-14181 Got any scripture references? I agree with your thesis, but these arguments won’t work without proof.

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