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	<title>Comments on: Charity and Clarity in Counseling</title>
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	<description> Informing Minds. Moving Hearts. Directing Hands.</description>
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		<title>By: Christ-Centered Biblical Counseling: A Chapter-by-Chapter Review &#124; Biblical Counseling Coalition Blogs</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2013/06/14/charity-and-clarity-in-counseling/#comment-26324</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christ-Centered Biblical Counseling: A Chapter-by-Chapter Review &#124; Biblical Counseling Coalition Blogs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2013 09:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Review of Chapter 2: The Power of the Redeemer by Ernie Baker and Jonathan Holmes. [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Review of Chapter 2: The Power of the Redeemer by Ernie Baker and Jonathan Holmes. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: David Murray</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2013/06/14/charity-and-clarity-in-counseling/#comment-25045</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Murray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 15:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Jonathan, I&#039;ve appreciated much of your own writing too in various places.

This is a very helpful clarification that puts us on the same page, I believe.

I did thoroughly enjoy the chapter. It really opened up Isaiah 61 for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jonathan, I&#8217;ve appreciated much of your own writing too in various places.</p>
<p>This is a very helpful clarification that puts us on the same page, I believe.</p>
<p>I did thoroughly enjoy the chapter. It really opened up Isaiah 61 for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Holmes</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2013/06/14/charity-and-clarity-in-counseling/#comment-25041</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Holmes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 13:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David,

Thank you for taking the time to interact with the book, and to post your thoughts as well as considerations after each chapter.  As an avid reader of your blog, I always take away something to mull on and consider.  This post was no different.

You write, &quot;Or is that question suggesting that cognitive behavior therapy and medication are OK as long as Christ-centered Biblical Counseling is used as well, or primarily? It’s not clear.&quot;

I believe Ernie and myself could have been more clear here because we don&#039;t believe it&#039;s an either/or approach meaning that either a person participate in CBT and medication OR they receive Christ-centered counseling.  I believe what we would say is that CBT apart from the empowering person and work of Jesus Christ doesn&#039;t have the power to change hearts and redeem people.

I believe CBT can be very helpful and there are aspects of the model which I find to be very in line with biblical principles.  That being said, I think that biblical counseling as it continues to grow desires to see change not only in how one thinks (cognition), but also how he/she loves (affective/emotional), and relates to others (relational).

Thanks for the opportunity to interact. Look forward to the remainder of the chapters!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Thank you for taking the time to interact with the book, and to post your thoughts as well as considerations after each chapter.  As an avid reader of your blog, I always take away something to mull on and consider.  This post was no different.</p>
<p>You write, &#8220;Or is that question suggesting that cognitive behavior therapy and medication are OK as long as Christ-centered Biblical Counseling is used as well, or primarily? It’s not clear.&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe Ernie and myself could have been more clear here because we don&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s an either/or approach meaning that either a person participate in CBT and medication OR they receive Christ-centered counseling.  I believe what we would say is that CBT apart from the empowering person and work of Jesus Christ doesn&#8217;t have the power to change hearts and redeem people.</p>
<p>I believe CBT can be very helpful and there are aspects of the model which I find to be very in line with biblical principles.  That being said, I think that biblical counseling as it continues to grow desires to see change not only in how one thinks (cognition), but also how he/she loves (affective/emotional), and relates to others (relational).</p>
<p>Thanks for the opportunity to interact. Look forward to the remainder of the chapters!</p>
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