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		<title>By: David Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Murray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your input Kevin. I take your point about misunderstanding of misapplication of Van Til&#039;s insights. I love the &quot;Affirm the good, correct the bad...&quot; summary. Have never heard that before but it jives with Forster&#039;s approach. I&#039;d be really grateful if you could point me to somewhere in Van Til&#039;s writings where I can read more about this. 


Your third point get&#039;s to the nub of the issue, I believe. I think there are many people who read Van Til but don&#039;t make that distinction, or else they do but they don&#039;t think it&#039;s as important to stress the point of contact/overlap and therefore all people hear is the antithesis/contrast.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your input Kevin. I take your point about misunderstanding of misapplication of Van Til&#8217;s insights. I love the &#8220;Affirm the good, correct the bad&#8230;&#8221; summary. Have never heard that before but it jives with Forster&#8217;s approach. I&#8217;d be really grateful if you could point me to somewhere in Van Til&#8217;s writings where I can read more about this. </p>
<p>Your third point get&#8217;s to the nub of the issue, I believe. I think there are many people who read Van Til but don&#8217;t make that distinction, or else they do but they don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s as important to stress the point of contact/overlap and therefore all people hear is the antithesis/contrast.</p>
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		<title>By: 14 Sobering Reminders When Confronting Sin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[14 Sobering Reminders When Confronting Sin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2014 04:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] is Professor of Old Testament &amp; Practical Theology at Puritan Reformed Theological Seminary. This article first appeared on his blog, Head Heart Hand, and is used with [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		<title>By: &#8220;The Greatest Failing Of The American Church Today&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kevin7Stevenson .</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2014 01:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David,

First, allow me to apologize on behalf of any Van Tillians that may press the
antithesis in the manner in which you present it here. That may represent a
misunderstanding of presuppositionalism applied, or an overzealous approach of
an immature understanding of this particular approach, but it isn’t what Van
Til promoted. In fact, a closest brother and Van Tillian pastor-apologist I
know summarizes consistent presuppositionalism as “Affirm the good; correct the bad, and present the gospel!” I’ve always found that both faithful and fruitful.

Second,I would just mention that both the Van Tillian apologetic and Foster’s
culture-affirming approach were both conceived in the same womb of Kuyperian
thought (if I understand Foster correctly). 

 Thirdly,I would just remind the reader of precisely when and where Van Til and his
purist prodigies emphasized pressing the antithesis. Van Til stressed and
over-stressed that the antithesis is not on the metaphysical levels and point
of contact, which is suggestive in some of your remarks above; rather, the
antithesis is at the point of the respective epistemological authorities of the
Christian and non-Christian, the self-attesting Christ speaking through
scripture for the former and autonomous human reason for the latter. If Foster
is suggesting that we should—against the Van Tillian thesis—AFFIRM human
autonomy, and I highly doubt this, then I’d say your review was entirely too
generous.

 These observations notwithstanding, thank you for your review. It led to at least one additional book sale for Foster.

Grace and peace,

Kevin Stevenson]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>First, allow me to apologize on behalf of any Van Tillians that may press the<br />
antithesis in the manner in which you present it here. That may represent a<br />
misunderstanding of presuppositionalism applied, or an overzealous approach of<br />
an immature understanding of this particular approach, but it isn’t what Van<br />
Til promoted. In fact, a closest brother and Van Tillian pastor-apologist I<br />
know summarizes consistent presuppositionalism as “Affirm the good; correct the bad, and present the gospel!” I’ve always found that both faithful and fruitful.</p>
<p>Second,I would just mention that both the Van Tillian apologetic and Foster’s<br />
culture-affirming approach were both conceived in the same womb of Kuyperian<br />
thought (if I understand Foster correctly). </p>
<p> Thirdly,I would just remind the reader of precisely when and where Van Til and his<br />
purist prodigies emphasized pressing the antithesis. Van Til stressed and<br />
over-stressed that the antithesis is not on the metaphysical levels and point<br />
of contact, which is suggestive in some of your remarks above; rather, the<br />
antithesis is at the point of the respective epistemological authorities of the<br />
Christian and non-Christian, the self-attesting Christ speaking through<br />
scripture for the former and autonomous human reason for the latter. If Foster<br />
is suggesting that we should—against the Van Tillian thesis—AFFIRM human<br />
autonomy, and I highly doubt this, then I’d say your review was entirely too<br />
generous.</p>
<p> These observations notwithstanding, thank you for your review. It led to at least one additional book sale for Foster.</p>
<p>Grace and peace,</p>
<p>Kevin Stevenson</p>
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		<title>By: Faith Announcer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Faith Announcer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2014 07:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks all for their nice, informative and really
excellent comments. But today I want to say about religious faith. We some have
strong religious faith on the other hand someone has no faith at all. Is there
any way to measurement the depth of religious faith? I was always confused
about the depth and power of my faith on my religion. But today it is clear to me
some days ago I got a nice application which is able to measure the religious
faith. It is really funny too. I like to share this with all to you. I think
you all will also get a lot of fun and will be astonished too.

 

This Faith Announcer Application is used to Announce
Religion Faith. 

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.faithannouncers&amp;hl=en]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks all for their nice, informative and really<br />
excellent comments. But today I want to say about religious faith. We some have<br />
strong religious faith on the other hand someone has no faith at all. Is there<br />
any way to measurement the depth of religious faith? I was always confused<br />
about the depth and power of my faith on my religion. But today it is clear to me<br />
some days ago I got a nice application which is able to measure the religious<br />
faith. It is really funny too. I like to share this with all to you. I think<br />
you all will also get a lot of fun and will be astonished too.</p>
<p>This Faith Announcer Application is used to Announce<br />
Religion Faith. </p>
<p><a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.faithannouncers&#038;hl=en" rel="nofollow">https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.faithannouncers&#038;hl=en</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dale Kleinheksel</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2014/07/16/the-greatest-failing-of-the-american-church-today/#comment-46160</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dale Kleinheksel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2014 12:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do you use this concept in sharing the gospel?  I have been taught that people need to hear the bad news before they can appreciate the &quot;Good News&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you use this concept in sharing the gospel?  I have been taught that people need to hear the bad news before they can appreciate the &#8220;Good News&#8221;.</p>
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