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	<title>Comments on: 14 Kinds of Seeker</title>
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		<title>By: moonius</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2014/07/28/14-kinds-of-seeker/#comment-46219</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your reply]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your reply</p>
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		<title>By: David Murray</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2014/07/28/14-kinds-of-seeker/#comment-46217</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Murray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 00:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See reply above. However, I believe Romans 10:20 is speaking more of the Gentiles than of individuals. It&#039;s teaching that God sovereignly and mercifully communicated his grace to Gentiles who had no knowledge of Jehovah and no desire for Him in contrast to the Jews who had unique spiritual privileges.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See reply above. However, I believe Romans 10:20 is speaking more of the Gentiles than of individuals. It&#8217;s teaching that God sovereignly and mercifully communicated his grace to Gentiles who had no knowledge of Jehovah and no desire for Him in contrast to the Jews who had unique spiritual privileges.</p>
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		<title>By: David Murray</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2014/07/28/14-kinds-of-seeker/#comment-46216</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Murray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 00:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your question. In addition to Romans 3:11 there are other verses where sinners are commanded to seek God and massive promises are given to these seekers (e.g. Isa. 55:6 and Matthew 7:7).  So here&#039;s how I would try to put these verses together.


Firstly, no one naturally seeks the God of the Bible for salvation from sin. That&#039;s what Romans 3:11 clearly teaches. 


Second, we are commanded to seek God and promises of finding God are given to those who do. That&#039;s our responsibility. 


Third, it&#039;s only at God&#039;s sovereign instigation that anyone seeks and finds God. 


Fourth, there are many &quot;seekers&quot; who are not seeking the God of the Bible, who are not seeking for the right reasons, and who are no seeking in the right way. 


Fifth, it&#039;s often very difficult for pastors to discern who are true seekers and those who are not. It&#039;s usually only time that tells the difference. In the meantime, we must work with all sorts of &quot;seekers&quot; and prayerfully seek to discern how to minister to them with encouragements and warnings.


Last, anyone who seeks and finds God eventually looks back and sees that for all their seeking, it was God&#039;s seeking that explained their seeking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your question. In addition to Romans 3:11 there are other verses where sinners are commanded to seek God and massive promises are given to these seekers (e.g. Isa. 55:6 and Matthew 7:7).  So here&#8217;s how I would try to put these verses together.</p>
<p>Firstly, no one naturally seeks the God of the Bible for salvation from sin. That&#8217;s what Romans 3:11 clearly teaches. </p>
<p>Second, we are commanded to seek God and promises of finding God are given to those who do. That&#8217;s our responsibility. </p>
<p>Third, it&#8217;s only at God&#8217;s sovereign instigation that anyone seeks and finds God. </p>
<p>Fourth, there are many &#8220;seekers&#8221; who are not seeking the God of the Bible, who are not seeking for the right reasons, and who are no seeking in the right way. </p>
<p>Fifth, it&#8217;s often very difficult for pastors to discern who are true seekers and those who are not. It&#8217;s usually only time that tells the difference. In the meantime, we must work with all sorts of &#8220;seekers&#8221; and prayerfully seek to discern how to minister to them with encouragements and warnings.</p>
<p>Last, anyone who seeks and finds God eventually looks back and sees that for all their seeking, it was God&#8217;s seeking that explained their seeking.</p>
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		<title>By: MJD</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2014/07/28/14-kinds-of-seeker/#comment-46214</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MJD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2014 19:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or Romans 10:20?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or Romans 10:20?</p>
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		<title>By: Steven McCarthy</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2014/07/28/14-kinds-of-seeker/#comment-46212</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven McCarthy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2014 16:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr Murray, thank you for thinking through this list, which helps me to think about various interactions I have encounters, and will, Lord willing, encounter in the future. This is not an answer to your closing question, but as someone who grew up in American, rather than Scottish, evangelicalism, I found it interesting what you left out of your introduction when you hypothesized about why we don&#039;t use the term &quot;seeker&quot;. Some have objected to the term because unbiblical practices have been justified on the basis of being calculated to &quot;draw&quot; those described as &quot;seekers&quot;. Those objecting in this way will usually cite the text also mentioned by the previous commenter. However, Paul also says that God has so ordered providence &quot;That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us.&quot; (Acts 17:27) May we all grow in meeting people where they have been brought by the secret workings of our gracious God.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Murray, thank you for thinking through this list, which helps me to think about various interactions I have encounters, and will, Lord willing, encounter in the future. This is not an answer to your closing question, but as someone who grew up in American, rather than Scottish, evangelicalism, I found it interesting what you left out of your introduction when you hypothesized about why we don&#8217;t use the term &#8220;seeker&#8221;. Some have objected to the term because unbiblical practices have been justified on the basis of being calculated to &#8220;draw&#8221; those described as &#8220;seekers&#8221;. Those objecting in this way will usually cite the text also mentioned by the previous commenter. However, Paul also says that God has so ordered providence &#8220;That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us.&#8221; (Acts 17:27) May we all grow in meeting people where they have been brought by the secret workings of our gracious God.</p>
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		<title>By: moonius</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2014/07/28/14-kinds-of-seeker/#comment-46209</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[moonius]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2014 12:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David, I love your writings but what do you do with Romans 3:11? &quot;...there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I love your writings but what do you do with Romans 3:11? &#8220;&#8230;there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God.&#8221;</p>
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