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		<title>By: A Scottish View on Scottish Independence</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2014/09/15/a-scottish-view-on-scottish-independence/#comment-46502</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Scottish View on Scottish Independence]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 04:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] is Professor of Old Testament &amp; Practical Theology at Puritan Reformed Theological Seminary.  This article first appeared on his blog, Head Heart Hand, and is used with [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] is Professor of Old Testament &amp; Practical Theology at Puritan Reformed Theological Seminary.  This article first appeared on his blog, Head Heart Hand, and is used with [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Birn</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2014/09/15/a-scottish-view-on-scottish-independence/#comment-46499</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Birn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2014 11:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are reasons for Americans to oppose Scottish independence. Scottish independence will weaken the UK and thus create a weakening of the international coalitions historically put together by the US and UK. It also will create problems with NATO. Specifically most if not all of the UK&#039;s nukes are located in Scotland. NATO has relied on on these nukes for decades. Scotland is unlikely to get invited into NATO (or the EU from what I can gather) and thus there are questions about where those nukes will end up. NATO stands to lose a lot in this race, which is why the Americans should generally oppose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are reasons for Americans to oppose Scottish independence. Scottish independence will weaken the UK and thus create a weakening of the international coalitions historically put together by the US and UK. It also will create problems with NATO. Specifically most if not all of the UK&#8217;s nukes are located in Scotland. NATO has relied on on these nukes for decades. Scotland is unlikely to get invited into NATO (or the EU from what I can gather) and thus there are questions about where those nukes will end up. NATO stands to lose a lot in this race, which is why the Americans should generally oppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Steele</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2014/09/15/a-scottish-view-on-scottish-independence/#comment-46497</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen Steele]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Should Christians really just vote for the least-worst option? There is another option: http://www.shallwesingasongforyou.co.uk/2014/07/the-reformed-presbyterian-church-of-scotland-and-scottish-independence/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should Christians really just vote for the least-worst option? There is another option: <a href="http://www.shallwesingasongforyou.co.uk/2014/07/the-reformed-presbyterian-church-of-scotland-and-scottish-independence/" rel="nofollow">http://www.shallwesingasongforyou.co.uk/2014/07/the-reformed-presbyterian-church-of-scotland-and-scottish-independence/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alastair Manderson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alastair Manderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2014 07:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If we get a yes vote, I shall be joining the list of expatriate Scots! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we get a yes vote, I shall be joining the list of expatriate Scots! </p>
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		<title>By: JohnM</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JohnM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2014 00:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting. I did think there was some provision for expatriate Scots to vote, at least those living in other parts of the UK. No? 

Having no connection to any part of Britain other than distant ancestry I suppose I don&#039;t really have a dog in the fight but I am paying attention nonetheless. Being conservative myself I concur with: &quot;I don’t believe Christians should campaign or vote to upend the status quo of civil society without having extremely good moral reasons to do so.&quot;. Of course Christians do strongly desire some degree of change, on both sides of the Atlantic, so we have to consider what degree and what kind of change does and does not amount to &quot;upending&quot;.
Delicate question here but, since &quot;Scotland has led the way in the UK in legislating for gay rights, gay adoption, gay marriage, etc.....and London has only been a step or two behind&quot;,  would a divided, and hence weaker and less influential in the world Britain be altogether a bad thing?  Offensive question to some, I know, but if it helps at all I also ask myself something like that about  the United States&#039;  &quot;place in the world&quot; at this point in history.  No sure what I think the answer is, but I ask the question.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. I did think there was some provision for expatriate Scots to vote, at least those living in other parts of the UK. No? </p>
<p>Having no connection to any part of Britain other than distant ancestry I suppose I don&#8217;t really have a dog in the fight but I am paying attention nonetheless. Being conservative myself I concur with: &#8220;I don’t believe Christians should campaign or vote to upend the status quo of civil society without having extremely good moral reasons to do so.&#8221;. Of course Christians do strongly desire some degree of change, on both sides of the Atlantic, so we have to consider what degree and what kind of change does and does not amount to &#8220;upending&#8221;.<br />
Delicate question here but, since &#8220;Scotland has led the way in the UK in legislating for gay rights, gay adoption, gay marriage, etc&#8230;..and London has only been a step or two behind&#8221;,  would a divided, and hence weaker and less influential in the world Britain be altogether a bad thing?  Offensive question to some, I know, but if it helps at all I also ask myself something like that about  the United States&#8217;  &#8220;place in the world&#8221; at this point in history.  No sure what I think the answer is, but I ask the question.</p>
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		<title>By: John Mowat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mowat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2014 21:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you David

Your analysis is helpful, as usual, and whatever the outcome, Christians in Scotland (and everywhere) need to remember that our primary allegiance belongs to another kingdom. My friend, Andy Hunter, Scottish Director of FIEC, also puts a similar case well here: http://andyatgreenview.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/should-auld-acquaintance-be-forgot.html

(The booklet to which you refer has been laid out so as to ensure a limited readership!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you David</p>
<p>Your analysis is helpful, as usual, and whatever the outcome, Christians in Scotland (and everywhere) need to remember that our primary allegiance belongs to another kingdom. My friend, Andy Hunter, Scottish Director of FIEC, also puts a similar case well here: <a href="http://andyatgreenview.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/should-auld-acquaintance-be-forgot.html" rel="nofollow">http://andyatgreenview.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/should-auld-acquaintance-be-forgot.html</a></p>
<p>(The booklet to which you refer has been laid out so as to ensure a limited readership!)</p>
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		<title>By: Flora Compton</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Flora Compton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2014 18:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In an article in today&#039;s Globe &amp; Mail, Bob Rae,former Premier of  Ontario speaks of his grand-mother,born in Govan.  Over 4 million Canadians claim some  Scottish heritage. Few in Scotland seem to  know about the tremendous influence Scots have had through out the world. Some years ago a reporter was sent from the Toronto Star to find out what Scots knew about the first Prime Minister of Canada - Sir John A.MacDonald ,born in Glasgow. He was astonished to find that few had heard of him. One man said, &quot;we have no interest in those who go away.&quot; That is a very insular kind of nationalism.

In God&#039;s sovereign providence, even very dire events such as the &#039;Clearances&#039; were used to bless many nations. I  can rejoice in being a Scottish Canadian but I am also proud to have an English son-in-law as well as an Australian one and a Peruvian daughter-in-law but ultimately my greatest joy comes from the fact that I was given the &#039;heritage&#039; of those who fear God and the great privilege of hearing the Gospel faithfully preached from my childhood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an article in today&#8217;s Globe &amp; Mail, Bob Rae,former Premier of  Ontario speaks of his grand-mother,born in Govan.  Over 4 million Canadians claim some  Scottish heritage. Few in Scotland seem to  know about the tremendous influence Scots have had through out the world. Some years ago a reporter was sent from the Toronto Star to find out what Scots knew about the first Prime Minister of Canada &#8211; Sir John A.MacDonald ,born in Glasgow. He was astonished to find that few had heard of him. One man said, &#8220;we have no interest in those who go away.&#8221; That is a very insular kind of nationalism.</p>
<p>In God&#8217;s sovereign providence, even very dire events such as the &#8216;Clearances&#8217; were used to bless many nations. I  can rejoice in being a Scottish Canadian but I am also proud to have an English son-in-law as well as an Australian one and a Peruvian daughter-in-law but ultimately my greatest joy comes from the fact that I was given the &#8216;heritage&#8217; of those who fear God and the great privilege of hearing the Gospel faithfully preached from my childhood.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Thorp</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Thorp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2014 10:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for a nicely balanced post - they are sadly few and far between :(

As someone in the opposite position - an Englishman but resident in Scotland and thus with the opportunity to vote - I agree with what you say, although personally I think we&#039;re likely to see a slim Yes vote on Thursday. I&#039;m also currently sitting on the Yes vote - but that&#039;s partly because I lean left politically, and would see it as &quot;better the devil you vote, than the devil you can&#039;t&quot;. I was quite shocked when I discovered that Scotland as a nation hadn&#039;t actually voted a Conservative majority for almost 60 years (1955 to be precise) and I guess my hope is that an independent Scotland would (at least for a season) break some of the political apathy I see here - it&#039;s difficult to argue that voting makes a difference when it seems that actually it doesn&#039;t....

But, ultimately, as you say &quot;I don’t see either arrangement making that much difference to Christians or the Church of Christ&quot; - let our &quot;Yes&quot; be to Christ, our &quot;No&quot; to the world, and our allegiance be to the Kingdom of God.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a nicely balanced post &#8211; they are sadly few and far between <img src="https://headhearthand.org/eph24/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
<p>As someone in the opposite position &#8211; an Englishman but resident in Scotland and thus with the opportunity to vote &#8211; I agree with what you say, although personally I think we&#8217;re likely to see a slim Yes vote on Thursday. I&#8217;m also currently sitting on the Yes vote &#8211; but that&#8217;s partly because I lean left politically, and would see it as &#8220;better the devil you vote, than the devil you can&#8217;t&#8221;. I was quite shocked when I discovered that Scotland as a nation hadn&#8217;t actually voted a Conservative majority for almost 60 years (1955 to be precise) and I guess my hope is that an independent Scotland would (at least for a season) break some of the political apathy I see here &#8211; it&#8217;s difficult to argue that voting makes a difference when it seems that actually it doesn&#8217;t&#8230;.</p>
<p>But, ultimately, as you say &#8220;I don’t see either arrangement making that much difference to Christians or the Church of Christ&#8221; &#8211; let our &#8220;Yes&#8221; be to Christ, our &#8220;No&#8221; to the world, and our allegiance be to the Kingdom of God.</p>
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