Comments on: 4 Ways Inerrantists Undermine the Bible

By: Rambler

Rambler — Sat, 28 Oct 2023 16:51:00 +0000

The fact that anything at all exists, much more billions of galaxies, and a world brimming with unimaginably complex living structures, plus the thinking that allows us to consciously consider it and them, shouts the fact of a creator. To believe it all came from nothing requires a conscious suppression of innate logic. The burden is on you to prove it all came about on its own, without even any purpose, to arrive at the wonders you yourself find just in your own eye.

By: Andy Stout

Andy Stout — Wed, 21 Dec 2022 13:35:00 +0000

Your entire rant presupposes that your imaginary magic genie actually exists. But that is the very question. Therefore, you are committing the common logical fallacy called “petitio principii” (begging the question).

The burden of proof always rests on the shoulders of the person who makes an assertion (e.g., “A supreme being exists.”). But without any evidence to support one’s assertion, the assertion can NOT be taken seriously and must be declared “not factually true”.

Thousands of years have passed and still there is not one shred of evidence to support the wild assertion that a magic genie actually exists.

One thing is for certain: The genocidal magic genie in the unholy Bible is anything but a “loving god”. This imaginary maniac is more crazy and evil that Adolph Hitler. At least Hitler didn’t burn his victims ALIVE and drown almost the entire population of human beings on Earth.

By: Gary M

Gary M — Tue, 16 Nov 2021 06:15:00 +0000

Why do Protestant apologists appeal to Peter and Paul for their belief in the divine inspiration of the New Testament? When exactly did God make Peter or Paul the infallible vicar of Christ on earth? When it comes to the divine inspiration of the New Testament, are Protestant apologists papists?

https://lutherwasnotbornagaincom.wordpress.com/2021/11/15/the-alleged-divine-inspiration-of-the-new-testament-is-a-joke/

By: AtheistCards.com

AtheistCards.com — Fri, 20 Mar 2015 16:21:00 +0000

Jeff, you make a common mistake in assuming an atheist asserts “there is no god”. Atheists, at the very least (this is what makes them atheist) say they don’t have belief in god. So we could play you word game with any NUMBER of things, but I’m not sure how helpful it is.

Well an aunicornist says there is no Unicorn. I might ask an aunicornist is it possible that of all there is that one may possibly know in the universe you don’t know everything? He may say, “Yes”. I say, “Let’s say you know half of what there is to know. Could it be possible that in the half you don’t know, Unicorn exists?” Okay he says. I say, “Now you are an agnostic, not an aunicornist.”

Great! But we haven’t really made any progress, nor altered any beliefs. Again you assume the atheist is making a knowledge claim: “I know there is no god”. An atheist might indeed say that, but many won’t. They are still atheist. It is simply the rejection of belief in god. There are any number of things you don’t actively believe in, presumably (unicorns, fairies, boogeymen, etc.). Your belief in those things, and mine, could be changed instantly in the face of overwhelming evidence. Until you see such evidence, you’re probably continue your disbelief. That’s how I, as an atheist, view god. We just happen to have a word for this, and not for other things. I think if billions of people had an active belief in unicorns, we would indeed have a word for that too.

Thanks for reading!

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By: johntjeff

johntjeff — Wed, 11 Mar 2015 15:06:00 +0000

Ditto what Steve Meister commented. He saved me the trouble. You did miss it. Rather than second hand reports, I would recommend listening to each of the worthy messages, while viewing the transcripts posted on The Master’s Seminary “Preachers & Preaching” blog site. That being said, I am “Amen!”ing your post!

By: Jeff Smith

Jeff Smith — Wed, 11 Mar 2015 14:15:00 +0000

Dear Gary,
Perhaps you are aware that all of your claims have been addressed in great detail many times. A number of things you say are not accurate representations. However, leaving that aside, may I ask you how you know that bacon is salty or that candy is sweet? As you think about that I would also encourage you to begin reading the N.T. as at least an honest agnostic. What do I mean? Well an atheist says there is no God. I might ask an atheist is it possible that of all there is that one may possibly know in the universe you don’t know everything? He may say, “Yes”. I say, “Let’s say you know half of what there is to know. Could it be possible that in the half you don’t know, God exists?” Okay he says. I say, “Now you are an agnostic, not an atheist. But are you and honest or dishonest agnostic?” “What do you mean?”, he says. “Well, a dishonest agnostic says I don’t know if there is a God or if the God of the Bible is that God but I really don’t want to know or care to know. An honest agnostic, as I’m using the terms, says, I don’t know if God exists or if the Bible is true but I want to know and if He is I am willing to give him the worship and devotion that He requires and deserves. Will you be willing to go that far?” He says, “Ok”. I say, “Let me challenge you then to take the N..T., beginning with Luke or perhaps John and pray ‘God I don’t know if you exist or if this N.T. is true but I want really want to know if it is or not so if you exist and if it is please show me as I commit myself to reading through it carefully”. Gary, I challenge you to do that or at least to admit that you really don’t care or want to know if the N.T. is really the inspired Word of God. With warm regards.

By: Steve Meister

Steve Meister — Wed, 11 Mar 2015 04:33:00 +0000

Thanks, David, this is very helpful, but I was surprised at this comment: “one note I didn’t hear was one of humble confession, the sound of inerrantists confessing that we too have undermined the Bible.”

That very point was directly addressed, especially by Ligon Duncan, Ian Hamilton, and Derek Thomas, and indirectly in nearly all the others. Before I arrived, I prayed that the Lord would challenge me in this doctrine of which I was already convinced – and He did! Remarkably, in the very things of which you write here.