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		<title>By: cant_happen_here</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2015/09/01/why-is-donald-trump-winning-over-evangelical-voters/#comment-49147</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2016 16:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Lord provided protection and governance by the non-believing King(s) of Persia to the exiled Jews in Babylon, allowing them to eventually rebuild and return to Judea.  And Jesus, while here, said so simply regarding political affairs of all kinds, &quot;Render unto Caesar what is Caesar&#039;s&quot;.  So if the likely unbeliever Donald Trump -despite his rough edges and uncouthness- seems the best person to many Christians to vote for, they shouldn&#039;t be judged.  As is often said, we are voting for President, not Pastor of the United States.  

We have had good Christian people run for office, like Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum and Ben Carson (my favorite, before turning to Cruz, then Trump).  But despite there being many evangelical and other Christian and like-values&#039; voters, they failed.  There is much more at play here than Christians simply voting for the right people at all levels of government.  I&#039;m writing this in April, 2016, and after Colorado and other states, am finding out like many people how little our votes actually mean in the face of political machines and their rules.  

I don&#039;t believe the Lord meant for U.S. Christians to succeed as a monolithic political power to rule or &quot;take back our country&quot;.  I believe He is allowing our country to decline so that many of us will be shaken from our comfort and security and apathy to turn to Him as never before.  I hesitate to say this, but I believe He wants us to turn away from the idolatry of thinking our country is so great and &quot;exceptional&quot;, and instead turn to him as individuals more strongly than ever before.  EACH and EVERY ONE of us as His created beings, I believe, is worth so much more to Him than this or any other nation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lord provided protection and governance by the non-believing King(s) of Persia to the exiled Jews in Babylon, allowing them to eventually rebuild and return to Judea.  And Jesus, while here, said so simply regarding political affairs of all kinds, &#8220;Render unto Caesar what is Caesar&#8217;s&#8221;.  So if the likely unbeliever Donald Trump -despite his rough edges and uncouthness- seems the best person to many Christians to vote for, they shouldn&#8217;t be judged.  As is often said, we are voting for President, not Pastor of the United States.  </p>
<p>We have had good Christian people run for office, like Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum and Ben Carson (my favorite, before turning to Cruz, then Trump).  But despite there being many evangelical and other Christian and like-values&#8217; voters, they failed.  There is much more at play here than Christians simply voting for the right people at all levels of government.  I&#8217;m writing this in April, 2016, and after Colorado and other states, am finding out like many people how little our votes actually mean in the face of political machines and their rules.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe the Lord meant for U.S. Christians to succeed as a monolithic political power to rule or &#8220;take back our country&#8221;.  I believe He is allowing our country to decline so that many of us will be shaken from our comfort and security and apathy to turn to Him as never before.  I hesitate to say this, but I believe He wants us to turn away from the idolatry of thinking our country is so great and &#8220;exceptional&#8221;, and instead turn to him as individuals more strongly than ever before.  EACH and EVERY ONE of us as His created beings, I believe, is worth so much more to Him than this or any other nation.</p>
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		<title>By: cant_happen_here</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2015/09/01/why-is-donald-trump-winning-over-evangelical-voters/#comment-49146</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2016 16:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The GOP is bad enough, but Democrats are even worse.  Nearly all of them are very liberal/leftist now, few moderates/centrists remaining.  There is little to prevent BOTH parties moving to the left, adding trillions more to our debt, eventually granting citizenship and the vote to 12 to 20 million illegal immigrants, continuing to support massive LEGAL immigration: all the while making promises to help the middle class and all the underemployed. 

I could go on, but this is enough.  Except to say, while Democrats and many GOPe like Paul Ryan keep expanding the welfare state, other GOP members obsess on spending big money on defense without discretion.  And demographically, the GOP will not be likely able to elect a President after this year, as new immigrant citizen voters, both illegal and legal (yes, the latter too, per research) will vote Democrat.  And if by chance the Democrats take back the Senate, or we have enough RINO&#039;s like Lindsey Graham, the GOP SCOTUS nominees will be weak: no more Scalia&#039;s.  Thus SCOTUS also will continue to be more liberal, and will usurp even more power from both Congress and the states.  

Only God&#039;s intervention can fix this imperfect government of ours, a system that is simply the lesser of evils in a fallen world: take note, lovers of the Constitution.  We simply can&#039;t just &quot;take back America&quot;, not going to happen.  God alone for his proposes saw fit to make our government work in spite of itself, but now I sense he is letting us create our own dysfunctional governmental quagmire, to go with our debased culture.  

All this to say, we as individuals and families must more than ever focus on the Living God, thru His Son Jesus Christ, to live fruitful lives in a nation and world in steady, chaotic decline.  May Jesus as the Returning Conquering King please come soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GOP is bad enough, but Democrats are even worse.  Nearly all of them are very liberal/leftist now, few moderates/centrists remaining.  There is little to prevent BOTH parties moving to the left, adding trillions more to our debt, eventually granting citizenship and the vote to 12 to 20 million illegal immigrants, continuing to support massive LEGAL immigration: all the while making promises to help the middle class and all the underemployed. </p>
<p>I could go on, but this is enough.  Except to say, while Democrats and many GOPe like Paul Ryan keep expanding the welfare state, other GOP members obsess on spending big money on defense without discretion.  And demographically, the GOP will not be likely able to elect a President after this year, as new immigrant citizen voters, both illegal and legal (yes, the latter too, per research) will vote Democrat.  And if by chance the Democrats take back the Senate, or we have enough RINO&#8217;s like Lindsey Graham, the GOP SCOTUS nominees will be weak: no more Scalia&#8217;s.  Thus SCOTUS also will continue to be more liberal, and will usurp even more power from both Congress and the states.  </p>
<p>Only God&#8217;s intervention can fix this imperfect government of ours, a system that is simply the lesser of evils in a fallen world: take note, lovers of the Constitution.  We simply can&#8217;t just &#8220;take back America&#8221;, not going to happen.  God alone for his proposes saw fit to make our government work in spite of itself, but now I sense he is letting us create our own dysfunctional governmental quagmire, to go with our debased culture.  </p>
<p>All this to say, we as individuals and families must more than ever focus on the Living God, thru His Son Jesus Christ, to live fruitful lives in a nation and world in steady, chaotic decline.  May Jesus as the Returning Conquering King please come soon.</p>
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		<title>By: cant_happen_here</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2015/09/01/why-is-donald-trump-winning-over-evangelical-voters/#comment-48706</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2016 01:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am reading this article on Jan. 19, 2016. This is by far the best piece I have read anywhere regarding why evangelical Christians are drawn to Donald Trump, and for that matter any anybody else supporting him.  

As I read this, I kept saying to myself, &quot;Yes, that&#039;s right!&quot;, repeatedly, while being envious I had not written it myself because it&#039;s so on point.  

I had concerns about Trump too, as I found well expressed by yes, this same author in a piece he wrote in August 2015, several weeks before this article was written, and accessible by the link in blue above, &quot;a previous article&quot; (the actual link is : http://headhearthand.org/blog/2015/08/10/political-correctness-and-plain-rudeness/).  

I too for months saw Trump as a battering ram against the GOP Establishment (Elites), the un-kept promises of most of the people we elect to Congress, the liberal/pro-Democrat bias of the mainstream news media, and its propagandizing of the American public in favor of Democrats and liberal / moderate Republicans. 

For me, as well as many others, I was immediately drawn to Trump when came out strongly against illegal immigration, including even deportation of the 12 to 20 million illegals already here.  There is no room here for specifics, or how I disagree with many evangelicals who believe we ought not do this because it&#039;s not the Christian thing to do.  

In addition, Trump seems be attuned to the needs of our depressed and declining middle class, the underemployment of millions, and the needs of all white-collar and blue-collar workers at all income levels.  

However, until recently, I had hoped Trump would fade away, after &quot;paving the way&quot; for other candidates to be more bolder on the issues.  Like many evangelicals, I especially liked Ben Carson, and to a lesser extent Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio.  Ben Carson had early on eclipsed Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum, good candidates from the past.  To me it was unfortunate that the killings in San Bernardino, along with increased concerns about ISIS and Syria, led to Carson&#039;s rapid decline, as he was then perceived as not being strong enough on foreign policy and making war.  

Most of us &quot;outsider&quot; voters decided Marco Rubio was not an option, because of his weak (and deceptive) positions on amnesty and a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.  There is also his advocacy of the continuation of many years of high &gt;LEGAL&gt;as individuals&lt;&lt; draw ever so much more closely to our Lord and Savior and our God.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reading this article on Jan. 19, 2016. This is by far the best piece I have read anywhere regarding why evangelical Christians are drawn to Donald Trump, and for that matter any anybody else supporting him.  </p>
<p>As I read this, I kept saying to myself, &#8220;Yes, that&#8217;s right!&#8221;, repeatedly, while being envious I had not written it myself because it&#8217;s so on point.  </p>
<p>I had concerns about Trump too, as I found well expressed by yes, this same author in a piece he wrote in August 2015, several weeks before this article was written, and accessible by the link in blue above, &#8220;a previous article&#8221; (the actual link is : <a href="http://headhearthand.org/blog/2015/08/10/political-correctness-and-plain-rudeness/" rel="nofollow">http://headhearthand.org/blog/2015/08/10/political-correctness-and-plain-rudeness/</a>).  </p>
<p>I too for months saw Trump as a battering ram against the GOP Establishment (Elites), the un-kept promises of most of the people we elect to Congress, the liberal/pro-Democrat bias of the mainstream news media, and its propagandizing of the American public in favor of Democrats and liberal / moderate Republicans. </p>
<p>For me, as well as many others, I was immediately drawn to Trump when came out strongly against illegal immigration, including even deportation of the 12 to 20 million illegals already here.  There is no room here for specifics, or how I disagree with many evangelicals who believe we ought not do this because it&#8217;s not the Christian thing to do.  </p>
<p>In addition, Trump seems be attuned to the needs of our depressed and declining middle class, the underemployment of millions, and the needs of all white-collar and blue-collar workers at all income levels.  </p>
<p>However, until recently, I had hoped Trump would fade away, after &#8220;paving the way&#8221; for other candidates to be more bolder on the issues.  Like many evangelicals, I especially liked Ben Carson, and to a lesser extent Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio.  Ben Carson had early on eclipsed Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum, good candidates from the past.  To me it was unfortunate that the killings in San Bernardino, along with increased concerns about ISIS and Syria, led to Carson&#8217;s rapid decline, as he was then perceived as not being strong enough on foreign policy and making war.  </p>
<p>Most of us &#8220;outsider&#8221; voters decided Marco Rubio was not an option, because of his weak (and deceptive) positions on amnesty and a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.  There is also his advocacy of the continuation of many years of high &gt;LEGAL&gt;as individuals&lt;&lt; draw ever so much more closely to our Lord and Savior and our God.</p>
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		<title>By: David Murray</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2015/09/01/why-is-donald-trump-winning-over-evangelical-voters/#comment-48080</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Murray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2015 10:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Brett. Glad you got it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Brett. Glad you got it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Maragni</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2015/09/01/why-is-donald-trump-winning-over-evangelical-voters/#comment-48079</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brett Maragni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2015 03:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Loretta, no where in this article does David Murray support or endorse Trump. He is simply seeking to make sense of why so many evangelical Christians DO like and support Trump. If you will notice in this comment thread, Murray&#039;s response to Steven Birn&#039;s comment confirms that Murray is not a Trump supporter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loretta, no where in this article does David Murray support or endorse Trump. He is simply seeking to make sense of why so many evangelical Christians DO like and support Trump. If you will notice in this comment thread, Murray&#8217;s response to Steven Birn&#8217;s comment confirms that Murray is not a Trump supporter.</p>
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		<title>By: Loretta</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Loretta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2015 02:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What are these great truths Trump is saying? What &quot;truth&quot; is Trump not afraid to say? That someone is a &quot;perve&quot; and Megyn Kelly &quot;had blood coming out of he eyes&quot;?  &quot;Truth&quot; defined by Trump is clearly whatever will work in his favor and gives him a reason to sneer and make fun of someone. Trump is not a Christian vote, by any means, and  there really is no support for this article. It is irresponsible for a church leader to endorse Donald Trump for any reason. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are these great truths Trump is saying? What &#8220;truth&#8221; is Trump not afraid to say? That someone is a &#8220;perve&#8221; and Megyn Kelly &#8220;had blood coming out of he eyes&#8221;?  &#8220;Truth&#8221; defined by Trump is clearly whatever will work in his favor and gives him a reason to sneer and make fun of someone. Trump is not a Christian vote, by any means, and  there really is no support for this article. It is irresponsible for a church leader to endorse Donald Trump for any reason. </p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hoffman</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2015/09/01/why-is-donald-trump-winning-over-evangelical-voters/#comment-48076</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Hoffman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2015 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many points well-taken, but one thing Trump is not is a hypocrite. And thank God he opposes any more intervention in thousand-year old Muslim civil wars overseas on behalf of our home-grown military-industrial complex. I won’t vote for a candidate backed by the Money Power and its usury.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many points well-taken, but one thing Trump is not is a hypocrite. And thank God he opposes any more intervention in thousand-year old Muslim civil wars overseas on behalf of our home-grown military-industrial complex. I won’t vote for a candidate backed by the Money Power and its usury.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Stallings</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2015/09/01/why-is-donald-trump-winning-over-evangelical-voters/#comment-48075</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Stallings]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2015 15:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He is &quot;saying&quot; what the people want to hear, but it is doubtful he would live it out. Just two years ago he had no problem making $$ contributions to the powerful democrats (and has done so for years). He admits he did it to buy favor. - This statement alone shows a lack of character.  Most people fail to dig deep into the candidates and only look at what they and the media feed us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is &#8220;saying&#8221; what the people want to hear, but it is doubtful he would live it out. Just two years ago he had no problem making $$ contributions to the powerful democrats (and has done so for years). He admits he did it to buy favor. &#8211; This statement alone shows a lack of character.  Most people fail to dig deep into the candidates and only look at what they and the media feed us.</p>
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		<title>By: David Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Murray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2015 14:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was a good and accurate comment. Helped me understand the Trump phenomenon better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a good and accurate comment. Helped me understand the Trump phenomenon better.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Farlow</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2015/09/01/why-is-donald-trump-winning-over-evangelical-voters/#comment-48073</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry Farlow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2015 13:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you&#039;re exactly right. I&#039;m not a Trump fan but I have to admit I enjoy seeing him make the Republican establishment squirm. For the last several election cycles Republican candidates have jumped up and shouted &quot;abortion!&quot; &quot;same sex marriage!&quot; &quot;Who will appoint the next judges?!&quot; and Christians have fallen in line and voted for them thinking they&#039;d actually take a stand on those and other issues. However, the scales have finally come off people&#039;s eyes and they see the GOPe for what they are, political hacks more concerned about maintaining their power than serving their constituency. Republicans have lied to and taken advantage of conservative voters one too many times and the chickens are coming home to roost. If we get President Trump it will be more the result of Republican incompetence and deception than anything else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re exactly right. I&#8217;m not a Trump fan but I have to admit I enjoy seeing him make the Republican establishment squirm. For the last several election cycles Republican candidates have jumped up and shouted &#8220;abortion!&#8221; &#8220;same sex marriage!&#8221; &#8220;Who will appoint the next judges?!&#8221; and Christians have fallen in line and voted for them thinking they&#8217;d actually take a stand on those and other issues. However, the scales have finally come off people&#8217;s eyes and they see the GOPe for what they are, political hacks more concerned about maintaining their power than serving their constituency. Republicans have lied to and taken advantage of conservative voters one too many times and the chickens are coming home to roost. If we get President Trump it will be more the result of Republican incompetence and deception than anything else.</p>
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