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		<title>By: What Is This Thing Called Church? &#124; A disciple&#039;s study</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What Is This Thing Called Church? &#124; A disciple&#039;s study]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2017 02:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] departure can have grievous consequences. For example, if the damage from any pastor’s fall is considerable, how much more devastating when the fallen pastor is the centerpiece of numerous congregations in [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] departure can have grievous consequences. For example, if the damage from any pastor’s fall is considerable, how much more devastating when the fallen pastor is the centerpiece of numerous congregations in [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: What Is This Thing Called Church? &#8211; Already Not Yet</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 May 2017 06:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] departure can have grievous consequences. For example, if the damage from any pastor’s fall is considerable, how much more devastating when the fallen pastor is the centerpiece of numerous congregations in [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] departure can have grievous consequences. For example, if the damage from any pastor’s fall is considerable, how much more devastating when the fallen pastor is the centerpiece of numerous congregations in [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: What Is This Thing Called Church? - Gospel X</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2017/04/27/repairing-the-damage-after-a-pastor-falls/#comment-50049</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2017 16:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] can have grievous consequences. For example, if the damage from any pastor&rsquo;s fall is considerable , how much more devastating when the fallen pastor is the centerpiece of numerous congregations in [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: A Amos Love</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Amos Love]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2017 16:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Halloweentown70

Thanks for the reply.

Seems, today, most folks have been taught, condtioned...
By “church leaders,” “pastors/elder/overseers”...
To Have...

PastorPhobia...
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Today, most folks have been taught, condtioned...
By “church leaders,” “pastors/elder/overseers”...

To NEVER question the one with the “Title.”

&quot;I applaud that deacon for speaking up.&quot;
Also...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Halloweentown70</p>
<p>Thanks for the reply.</p>
<p>Seems, today, most folks have been taught, condtioned&#8230;<br />
By “church leaders,” “pastors/elder/overseers”&#8230;<br />
To Have&#8230;</p>
<p>PastorPhobia&#8230;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Today, most folks have been taught, condtioned&#8230;<br />
By “church leaders,” “pastors/elder/overseers”&#8230;</p>
<p>To NEVER question the one with the “Title.”</p>
<p>&#8220;I applaud that deacon for speaking up.&#8221;<br />
Also&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Halloweentown70</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2017/04/27/repairing-the-damage-after-a-pastor-falls/#comment-50037</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Halloweentown70]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2017 16:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So very very true.  There are definitely signs, and if the pastor has surrounded himself with &#039;yes&#039; men, they were too loyal or afraid to speak up.  There should be conferences for pastors to attend in order to educate them on their responsibilities as leaders of the church, appropriate boundaries, the power imbalance between pastors and laity, and the need for accountability OUTSIDE of the elders/deacons in the church.  Most people won&#039;t question the pastor.  I do remember one case in which a deacon was brave enough to confront - when Jack Schaap at FBC Hammond, Indiana was caught having an affair with a 16 yr old and the evidence was discovered on his phone.  I applaud that deacon for speaking up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So very very true.  There are definitely signs, and if the pastor has surrounded himself with &#8216;yes&#8217; men, they were too loyal or afraid to speak up.  There should be conferences for pastors to attend in order to educate them on their responsibilities as leaders of the church, appropriate boundaries, the power imbalance between pastors and laity, and the need for accountability OUTSIDE of the elders/deacons in the church.  Most people won&#8217;t question the pastor.  I do remember one case in which a deacon was brave enough to confront &#8211; when Jack Schaap at FBC Hammond, Indiana was caught having an affair with a 16 yr old and the evidence was discovered on his phone.  I applaud that deacon for speaking up.</p>
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		<title>By: Halloweentown70</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Halloweentown70]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2017 16:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read it and THANK YOU!  It was a great follow up to this article.  I also commented and left information about a ministry that helps men &amp; women who are victims of CSA - The Hope of Survivors (www.hopeofsurvivors.com).  As a victim of CSA, this ministry was the only help I found during the aftermath.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read it and THANK YOU!  It was a great follow up to this article.  I also commented and left information about a ministry that helps men &amp; women who are victims of CSA &#8211; The Hope of Survivors (www.hopeofsurvivors.com).  As a victim of CSA, this ministry was the only help I found during the aftermath.</p>
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		<title>By: A Amos Love</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2017/04/27/repairing-the-damage-after-a-pastor-falls/#comment-50034</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Amos Love]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2017 14:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmm? “When pastors fall...”

I’ve seen the damage..
And, Repairing the wreckage is important...

But - What about prevention?

Didn’t Paul, and most likely Jesus... 
Give some very tough qualifications for elder/overseer?

How many folks even know the qualifications?
And then check out their elder/overseers?
To see if their elder/overseers Qualify?

I’ve noticed, the congregation, and most who call themselves “pastor/elder/overseer” tend to“Ignore,” and “Twist,” the 17+, very tough Qualifications in 1 Tim 3:1-7, and Titus 1:5-8. 

So they can get “Hired.” 

So they can maintain their “Titles,” and “Positions,” pastor/leader/reverend, that today come with Power, Profit, and Prestige.

The Bible talks about elder/overseers. 
And Qualifications for elder/overseers. 
Can you have one without the other? 

And, if a pastor/elder/overseer does NOT Qualify???

Shouldn’t they remove themselves?
And be a good example to the Flock?

What about prevention?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm? “When pastors fall&#8230;”</p>
<p>I’ve seen the damage..<br />
And, Repairing the wreckage is important&#8230;</p>
<p>But &#8211; What about prevention?</p>
<p>Didn’t Paul, and most likely Jesus&#8230;<br />
Give some very tough qualifications for elder/overseer?</p>
<p>How many folks even know the qualifications?<br />
And then check out their elder/overseers?<br />
To see if their elder/overseers Qualify?</p>
<p>I’ve noticed, the congregation, and most who call themselves “pastor/elder/overseer” tend to“Ignore,” and “Twist,” the 17+, very tough Qualifications in 1 Tim 3:1-7, and Titus 1:5-8. </p>
<p>So they can get “Hired.” </p>
<p>So they can maintain their “Titles,” and “Positions,” pastor/leader/reverend, that today come with Power, Profit, and Prestige.</p>
<p>The Bible talks about elder/overseers.<br />
And Qualifications for elder/overseers.<br />
Can you have one without the other? </p>
<p>And, if a pastor/elder/overseer does NOT Qualify???</p>
<p>Shouldn’t they remove themselves?<br />
And be a good example to the Flock?</p>
<p>What about prevention?</p>
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		<title>By: David Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Murray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2017 11:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right, this post does not cover &quot;the other woman.&quot; Maybe it should have. However, I did write another post that deals with this aspect of the damage here http://headhearthand.org/blog/2017/05/05/healing-congregations-wounded-by-clergy-sexual-misconduct/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, this post does not cover &#8220;the other woman.&#8221; Maybe it should have. However, I did write another post that deals with this aspect of the damage here <a href="http://headhearthand.org/blog/2017/05/05/healing-congregations-wounded-by-clergy-sexual-misconduct/" rel="nofollow">http://headhearthand.org/blog/2017/05/05/healing-congregations-wounded-by-clergy-sexual-misconduct/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Halloweentown70</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2017/04/27/repairing-the-damage-after-a-pastor-falls/#comment-50031</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Halloweentown70]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2017 18:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about the &#039;other woman&#039;?  Is she left out in the cold to be 
ostracized and labeled a &#039;Jezebel&#039;?  There is a MAJOR misunderstanding 
of pastoral misconduct.  When a pastor breaks his sacred trust &amp; 
enters into a relationship with another woman in his congregation, it is
 ABUSE.  It is abuse of power, not unlike a therapist/client, 
teacher/student, doctor/patient relationship, where the responsibility
 for maintaining proper boundaries is on the shoulders of the one in 
power.  It is not an affair - it is abuse and should be treated as such.
  Multiple states even consider it a crime, and the pastor and/or church
 can be sued for pastoral abuse.  If more pastors knew the full 
implications of their actions, I&#039;m sure they would give 2nd thought 
before entering into an abusive relationship with a congregant.  Let&#039;s 
call it what it is and minister accordingly.  Don&#039;t give special 
preference to the wife, children &amp; congregation at large while 
ignoring the victim of the pastor.  And a pastor that engages in such 
conduct is no longer fit to lead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the &#8216;other woman&#8217;?  Is she left out in the cold to be<br />
ostracized and labeled a &#8216;Jezebel&#8217;?  There is a MAJOR misunderstanding<br />
of pastoral misconduct.  When a pastor breaks his sacred trust &amp;<br />
enters into a relationship with another woman in his congregation, it is<br />
 ABUSE.  It is abuse of power, not unlike a therapist/client,<br />
teacher/student, doctor/patient relationship, where the responsibility<br />
 for maintaining proper boundaries is on the shoulders of the one in<br />
power.  It is not an affair &#8211; it is abuse and should be treated as such.<br />
  Multiple states even consider it a crime, and the pastor and/or church<br />
 can be sued for pastoral abuse.  If more pastors knew the full<br />
implications of their actions, I&#8217;m sure they would give 2nd thought<br />
before entering into an abusive relationship with a congregant.  Let&#8217;s<br />
call it what it is and minister accordingly.  Don&#8217;t give special<br />
preference to the wife, children &amp; congregation at large while<br />
ignoring the victim of the pastor.  And a pastor that engages in such<br />
conduct is no longer fit to lead.</p>
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		<title>By: When Pastors Fall: 5 Steps to Repair the Wreckage &#8226; ChurchLeaders.com</title>
		<link>https://headhearthand.org/blog/2017/04/27/repairing-the-damage-after-a-pastor-falls/#comment-50030</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[When Pastors Fall: 5 Steps to Repair the Wreckage &#8226; ChurchLeaders.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2017 05:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] This article originally appeared here. [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] This article originally appeared here. [&#8230;]</p>
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