Comments on: Christian hiring and firing

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By: Wesley

Wesley — Sun, 26 Aug 2012 14:58:40 +0000

Agreed. How we define “Success” needs to be different than how a business would define it. A pastor faithfully shepherding a congregation of 50 for his whole time at a church is not a “failure” b/c it didn’t grow to 5000. I still say that we can use principles that we see in business viz. b/c all that is true is God’s truth; the business world didn’t ‘come up’ with those truths, God did.

By: Matt Beatty

Matt Beatty — Sun, 26 Aug 2012 00:04:54 +0000

Easier said than done, I think. Most (not all) churches bring an “efficiency” model to the people and – as you know – shepherding souls is one of the most inefficient things you could choose to do. I can change someone’s habits much faster than I can (with the Lord’s initiative/help/Spirit) change the heart and it’s affections.

By: Adrian Tribe

Adrian Tribe — Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:16:37 +0000

Thank you for those further comments David.

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By: David Murray

David Murray — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:19:02 +0000

“Using principles of business in order to hire good candidates should not be conflated with acting like a business.” I like that.

By: Wesley

Wesley — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 17:52:20 +0000

This is useful information for sure and absolutely applicable to our churches. Using principles of business in order to hire good candidates should not be conflated with acting like a business. I would hope that the moral, spiritual, and prayerful elements that should come along with any church would be notable and evident distinctions from a business-like model of hiring.

By: David Murray

David Murray — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:51:59 +0000

You’re right, Adrian. It’s quite different in the UK. However, just because certain procedures have been used first in the secular field, doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t use them to some degree. In many ways, it’s just common sense, isn’t it! I agree with you that more rigorous procedures would help churches and pastors avoid a lot of problems. And that in no way takes away from the need for prayer and a sense of calling. In fact a wise use of helpful procedures can be prayerfully used to deepen the sense of calling on both sides – congregation and pastor.

By: Adrian Tribe

Adrian Tribe — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 13:30:26 +0000

Hi David, I would be very interested indeed to hear about how you think the lengthy interview process highlighted here should/can be applied in the context of a church looking for a full-time pastor. We (in my experience in the UK at least) tend to shy away from what might be regarded as a rather secular business-like approach, but perhaps if we were more rigorous and had things like probation periods etc, then perhaps we would hear fewer horror stories of pastoral appointments going awry?